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kmfrk ◴[] No.20082597[source]
It'd be great to see Stripe adopted by donation platforms for livestreaming like Streamlabs and StreamElements, chargebacks remain an awful abuse vector there.
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1. judge2020 ◴[] No.20082644[source]
Didn't Paypal add a TOS clause (or something along those lines) that prevented donations from being valid for chargeback?
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2. fyfy18 ◴[] No.20082696[source]
How does that even work? The chargeback is initiated and the fee levied by the card issuer (Visa, MasterCard, etc).
3. kmfrk ◴[] No.20082714[source]
PayPal ran into some bad PR a while ago with people making "fake" donations to the tune of thousands of dollars and ended up refusing the chargebacks. But as far as structural change, things are still pretty bad.

Streamlabs's tutorial on chargebacks was updated as recently as a month ago: https://support.streamlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/11500601766....

4. gnopgnip ◴[] No.20086076[source]
The chargeback originates with your bank, not with Paypal.