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All extensions disabled due to expiration of intermediate signing cert

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1318 points xvector | 2 comments | 04 May 19 01:31 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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former_mozzer ◴[04 May 19 08:01 UTC] No.19825091[source]▶
There have been major organizational problems at Mozilla for a long time that precipitated this. Many of us saw something like this coming, saw gaps and unclear responsibilities, reported these gaps and confusions up the chain, and were reprimanded and financially penalized for asking the tough questions. The questions were never answered, and we all quit, were fired, or lost motivation as a result.

This is a tech problem, yes. Cert renewal has bitten everyone in a high profile way (apple, google, and ms have all had renewal-related outages in recent years). But this was preventable at Mozilla. Ask a Mozillian about IT and Cloud Sevices, and what their respective responsibilities are. Ask Mozilla’s VP of IT- who is responsible for cert renewal? Ask Mozilla leadership- why are people afraid to ask questions?

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greendestiny_re ◴[04 May 19 08:12 UTC] No.19825138[source]▶
I feel you. I saw this kind of thing coming back in 2010, when Firefox started copying Chrome blow for blow. I saw Google's influence on Mozilla and knew it could only turn out poorly. By the way, what can you say about that?
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1. konart ◴[04 May 19 09:02 UTC] No.19825315[source]▶
Maybe before talking about this he\she should provide any kind of proof of ever working at Mozilla at all?
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2. sfink ◴[04 May 19 14:28 UTC] No.19826652[source]▶
(I work for Mozilla)

I'm guessing the poster is legitimately former staff. It's not hard to find disgruntled people in any organization (especially if you look at those who have left.) And they'll often have legitimate reasons.

But the question is really whether there's a consistent pattern of problems - actual rot, so to speak. I haven't seen much, but then i know that some parts of the org are very different than others. I can say that I have publicly complained about a number of things in the last several years, and never felt any repercussions as a result. That includes comments made directly to the CEO during All-Hands sessions, so I'm not just talking hypothetically.

Yet I have also heard about a handful of cases where people have been treated unfairly as a result of public comments or actions, including a couple of friends of mine. So shit happens here, it's definitely not perfect and the problems aren't all in the past. But overall, I still feel like Mozilla is substantially better than most similar companies.

Just my perspective.