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NicoJuicy ◴[] No.19470724[source]
The belt is an excuse they use for modern colonization by debts.

Also, this deal is an entry in the EU which I really dislike. I hope the EU will step up it's game against china, too bad that our normal partner currently has an unstable leader. While XI is without a doubt a hard-working leader. Unfortunate, I do not approve their world vision, at all.

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devoply ◴[] No.19470765[source]
There should be a collective effort to put pressure on China to politically reform.
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coldtea ◴[] No.19472279[source]
Isn't that up to its citizens? Was there a collective effort to get YOUR country to "politically reform"? Would you appreciate one?
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abc-xyz ◴[] No.19472552[source]
If my country was engaged in sending Muslims to concentration camps, medical genocide (organ harvesting), and all sorts of human rights abuses, then I would very much appreciate if there was a collective effort to get my country to politically reform. Why wouldn't you appreciate that?
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coldtea ◴[] No.19476141[source]
If it was engaged in slavery, and then segregation (up to the 60s), had the biggest incarceration rates in the world (of hugely disproportionally black population), had torture sites off limits to the law, send drones to kill people without trial and without official act of war to the other country, was the only western country to still have the death penalty, and at great rates, and even for 15 year olds, plus routine police shootings on innocent people, SWATing invasions with victims for insignificant offenses, and so on, plus was established on the deterritorialization, interment, and genocide of a whole race of millions of natives, ad even did lethal medical experiments on unsuspecting foreign populations, if it was the only country that dropped atomic bombs to another (and to civilians at that)?

Would you be OK with a collective foreign effort to politically reform? Perhaps change the constitution or something based on what some foreigners insist to be there?

Especially if all cases of such "valiant" efforts on your end in the last 20 years have made things worse, turning stable regimes (Iraq, Libya, Syria) to hell-holes of loss, civil war, fanatical muslim rule, and turf wars?

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1. devoply ◴[] No.19480925[source]
yup. putting pressure on the us to reform these practices would be a positive.