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    kojackst ◴[] No.19323205[source]
    Note: personal opinion bellow

    It seems to me that the overall interest in Facebook is decreasing. The social network hasn't had any interesting feature added to it in the last couple of years. It's becoming boring and boring, so that's why I believe people are leaving.

    Still, Instagram and WhatsApp are running strong with barely no competition. We don't see any news about their user base decreasing and news channels don't seem to dislike them. Facebook is doing a good job making sure their biggest three platforms are seem as independent from one another, keeping Instagram and WhatsApp almost free from controversy.

    Personally I see no loss for them here. Besides, they will promptly acquire any new players that look promising, or shamelessly copy them as they did with Snapchat.

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    1. tombert ◴[] No.19323471[source]
    > Instagram and WhatsApp are running strong with barely no competition

    You're not wrong, but I find it a bit frustrating how much resistance I get whenever I try and suggest using Signal instead of Whatsapp. As far as I can tell, it has pretty much all the features of Whatsapp that I use, without all the spying.

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    2. JohnJamesRambo ◴[] No.19323765[source]
    I'm having some pretty good success getting people to switch to Signal in my family. Keep up the good fight!
    3. nategri ◴[] No.19323891[source]
    I think there's a lot of "chat app fatigue." I've personally had 5 or 6 on my phone in the past year and you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming into installing even one more of the damned things.
    4. jjrh ◴[] No.19323933[source]
    No one wants to install ANOTHER app just to talk to you. Most of us already have at least 3 messaging apps they use on a daily basis and probably a whole lot more they use on a weekly basis.
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    5. frosted-flakes ◴[] No.19324174[source]
    Signal work all right, but it doesn't feel very polished. Notifications are a bit wonky, and the unread message icon never shows up on the home screen icon.
    6. sm4rk0 ◴[] No.19324384[source]
    But why WhatsApp is one of those 3 and Signal is ANOTHER app? Not so long ago WhatsApp was ANOTHER. Now it's not. What changed?
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    7. schwap ◴[] No.19324682{3}[source]
    I don't remember WhatsApp ever being ANOTHER. It was the first cross-platform messaging app I ever used.
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    8. elamje ◴[] No.19325036[source]
    Genuinely curious, how is WhatsApp spying? I thought they were encrypted? Are they not end to end encrypted like Keybase or signal?
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    9. webninja ◴[] No.19325597{3}[source]
    GroupMe works fine
    10. fwn ◴[] No.19326189[source]
    They are end to end encrypted. There's apparently a lot of meta data (like the people one communicates with, etc.) that can still be accessed by Facebook.

    It also nudges users to enable cloud backups which in practice means that everyone has them enabled (...which in practice means that all your messages are unencrypted in the other person's cloud storage.)

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    11. sm4rk0 ◴[] No.19327766{4}[source]
    Wikipedia says it was released in January 2009. Google Talk started in August 2005. For a GTalk user, it was "another".
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    13. magduf ◴[] No.19328755[source]
    I would suggest LINE instead.
    14. elamje ◴[] No.19331429{3}[source]
    Oh no. I see