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ilamont ◴[] No.19108337[source]
I was basically alone. I didn’t have a team, nor an office. And San Francisco was full of startups raising gobs more money, building amazing teams, and shipping great products. Some of my friends became billionaires. Meanwhile, I had to run a “measly” lifestyle business. It wasn’t what I wanted to do, but I had to keep the ship from sinking.

There's that term again, "lifestyle business." Uttered like a dirty word, when in fact Sahil has an actual product that many thousands of people use and pay for. I'm one of them.

Meanwhile, many startups aren’t true businesses – they book no revenue, and they may not even have a sellable product. That’s fine, because almost all businesses start with an idea or a dream or a need or pure desperation, and it’s up to the founders to make it work. They may even need investment, too – sometimes a lot of it. And that’s fine, too.

But when people from the startup world use the term “lifestyle business” to describe real businesses that aren’t pure tech, have solo founders, don’t take VC money, don’t intend to scale to a billion users, or whatever other qualities are not worthy of investor consideration, I find it condescending and misguided. Some startups could actually learn a thing or two from the vendor who sells hot dogs in the park, the person who starts up a specialist marketing agency, the partnership that builds a ceramics factory, or the solo founder running a media distribution and sales platform. They have products or services to sell. They have customers. They book revenue, pay their employees and suppliers, and if they do things right, may even become really successful.

In short, people who run small businesses are not hobbyists or dilettantes. They’re entrepreneurs doing real business selling something, often with limited capital and without the glamor or hype.

Kudos to Sahil for what he's accomplished. But for the love of Pete, please stop using the term "lifestyle business."

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graeme ◴[] No.19109252[source]
He's talking about switching from vc rocketship to bootstrapped. In that context the pejorative makes sense: he's describing how he felt at the time.

Furthes, he ran this "lifestyle" business with outside investors.

He's written a nuanced, heartfelt essay, and this comment seems to have missed all of that to nitpick on a word.

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jstandard ◴[] No.19109486[source]
Agree the essay was a great read. I didn't see anything to suggest the OP missed that fact so much as had a reaction to a specific part of the essay and wished to discuss it.

Being a part of the SV startup ecosystem myself, I also see the term "lifestyle business" used as a soft-perjorative for "not ambitious enough".

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1. graeme ◴[] No.19110794[source]
That's exactly how OP was using it though, with full awareness. OP's mindset at the time was "I failed: I meant to start a billion dollar business, and I only have a crummy lifestyle business"

They now have come around and appreciate their success. Their use of "lifestyle business" was chosen to convey their own negative attitude at the time.

The comment I replied to totally missed that the author wasn't critcizing their own business! They just felt badly about it a few years ago. See the part of the comment where they praise gumroad.

A more self aware comment would have merely decried the prevailing VC attitude that led the founder to feel bad. Instead the commentor seems to think the founder needs cheering up and convincing.

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2. jstandard ◴[] No.19117830[source]
I see your point. The admonishment to Sahil at the end to "stop using" the term "lifestyle business" does seem to miss Sahil's self-awareness of the internal conflict between knowing about the misuse of the term and yet still allowing it to affect him at one point in time.

It's refreshing to see this perspective from founders. It's a story not often told and does well to characterize the grinding rollercoaster of hard decisions you won't easily find in the sea of "A-co raised $40mm!" press releases.