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egypturnash ◴[] No.18736059[source]
I just dug up info on how Brave’s contributions thing works and it feels like such a mess.

According to https://brave.com/publishers/

- once you have accumulated $100 in contributions they email “the webmaster at your site” and the owner of your domain according to the WHOIS. I assume this is “webmaster@domain.name”, which I sure don’t have set up on my personal site.

- you have to “check your balance frequently and transfer funds wherever you choose”, which suggests that there’s no way to just say “send my my balance every month” and forget about it.

This whole model totally breaks down when you remember that there’s a ton of independent creators who don’t have their own sites, but instead post stuff on another site. Is Brave going to realize that I’m following this particular person on YouTube, that person on Tumblr, this other person on Deviantart, etc, etc? And are they going to ping them or are they just gonna tell the people who own the site?

The page where you sign up to receive payments (https://publishers.basicattentiontoken.org) makes it sound like they understand YouTube accounts and nothing else, and as a creator whos interest in pivoting to video is nonexistent, screw that, I’ll stick with Patreon and it’s opt-in model that just transfers money into my bank account every month as long as I have patrons.

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mattferderer ◴[] No.18736773[source]
It's been a while since I started using Brave but I felt they were pretty up front with how the payments worked.

I do understand the frustration though of those who don't see this. Brave could warn visitors donating when the content owner hasn't set up Brave Payments. Brave could refund said money back to the visitor if it goes unclaimed after a while. Just random ideas from someone who actually likes their attempt.

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jacques_chester ◴[] No.18737528[source]
My understanding is that automatically refunding as part of the agreement with the Brave user is probably workable.

Even more workable is to be opt-in only. That's what I would do (to the point that I developed a protocol that's purely opt-in).

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brandnewlow ◴[] No.18741777[source]
After all the very passionate feedback yesterday here and on Twitter, we're reworking things to make it clear who's participating in Brave Rewards and will receive tips and who's not and won't. We erred in shipping UI/UX that didn't make this clear enough. We're fixing this.
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davidgerard ◴[] No.18742002[source]
You erred in "opt-out" versus "opt-in". Literally your founder advocated this spammy method.
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1. brandnewlow ◴[] No.18742385[source]
We erred in making it appear non-participating creators had opted in at all when they have not.