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    egypturnash ◴[] No.18736059[source]
    I just dug up info on how Brave’s contributions thing works and it feels like such a mess.

    According to https://brave.com/publishers/

    - once you have accumulated $100 in contributions they email “the webmaster at your site” and the owner of your domain according to the WHOIS. I assume this is “webmaster@domain.name”, which I sure don’t have set up on my personal site.

    - you have to “check your balance frequently and transfer funds wherever you choose”, which suggests that there’s no way to just say “send my my balance every month” and forget about it.

    This whole model totally breaks down when you remember that there’s a ton of independent creators who don’t have their own sites, but instead post stuff on another site. Is Brave going to realize that I’m following this particular person on YouTube, that person on Tumblr, this other person on Deviantart, etc, etc? And are they going to ping them or are they just gonna tell the people who own the site?

    The page where you sign up to receive payments (https://publishers.basicattentiontoken.org) makes it sound like they understand YouTube accounts and nothing else, and as a creator whos interest in pivoting to video is nonexistent, screw that, I’ll stick with Patreon and it’s opt-in model that just transfers money into my bank account every month as long as I have patrons.

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    duxup ◴[] No.18736102[source]
    That sounds so clumsy that I suspect they really don't care / want folks to fail to collect.
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    1. staticassertion ◴[] No.18736340[source]
    I think people may be forgetting that Brave is a very small, new company, and not everything is streamlined yet...
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    2. duxup ◴[] No.18736417[source]
    Maybe, but i'm pretty skeptical of the "taking money but not actually all that capable of getting it to the other person" to be a larger issue than streamlining.
    3. the_clarence ◴[] No.18736446[source]
    This. Tabs on the side has been their number one feature request for quite a while now. They're a pretty small team.
    4. PhasmaFelis ◴[] No.18736553[source]
    There's some things that you should not even start doing until you're certain that you can do them properly from beginning to end. If that breaks your business model, then your business model was shit.

    This is why the "move fast and break things" ethos is a terrible idea for anything more substantial than social media. See Robinhood, Theranos, etc., etc.

    5. SamWhited ◴[] No.18736557[source]
    That's no excuse for financial fraud.
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    6. lmpostor ◴[] No.18736726[source]
    fraud implies intention
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    7. notahacker ◴[] No.18736873[source]
    I don't think being a startup justifies switching on the "deduct money from my account to pay these entities" button before you've figured out how and if you can actually pay them.
    8. kps ◴[] No.18737187{3}[source]
    What is it that Brave is doing that they did not intend to do? Software doesn't release itself.
    9. MiddleEndian ◴[] No.18737431[source]
    A lot of scams are small enterprises.
    10. jacquesm ◴[] No.18737921{3}[source]
    Read the terms of service. That's intentional.
    11. SamWhited ◴[] No.18752330{3}[source]
    And this is intentional, so "fraud".