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“I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”

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2024 points randlet | 3 comments | 12 Jul 18 15:22 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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js2 ◴[12 Jul 18 16:15 UTC] No.17516019[source]▶
Background ("PEP 572 and decision-making in Python"):

https://lwn.net/Articles/757713/

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jcelerier ◴[12 Jul 18 16:26 UTC] No.17516132[source]▶
> The problem with the C-style of assignments is that it leads to this classic error: if(x = 0) {...}

yeah, if you code on 20 years old compilers with no warnings. GCC 4.1 warns about this (with -Wall) and Clang 3.4 warns about this too, without any warning flag.

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Waterluvian ◴[12 Jul 18 16:29 UTC] No.17516174[source]▶
I think that having strong opinions on how others should be developing software is how communities become toxic like this.

"Shooting yourself in the foot is your fault for not using a linter that detects accidental misuse of assignment!"

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Dayshine ◴[12 Jul 18 17:39 UTC] No.17516875{3}[source]▶
Linter?

You mean compiler right? The compiler should be warning for things like this, not relying on 3rd party tools.

So, yes, if you're using a custom compiler, you kinda are to blame for shooting yourself in the foot. Just use the official binaries!

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1. KSteffensen ◴[12 Jul 18 20:02 UTC] No.17518135{4}[source]▶
It's not that easy for the compiler to provide these warnings when the language is interpreted rather than compiled
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2. TooBrokeToBeg ◴[12 Jul 18 22:38 UTC] No.17519210[source]▶
The compiler can do anything a linter can do. Multi-pass multithreaded compilers are not unheard of. eg While compiling to temporary storage, I do a linting in another thread. At the end, check for successes and move the artifacts into the output directory.
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3. TwelveNights ◴[13 Jul 18 01:24 UTC] No.17519893[source]▶
What the poster means is that a compiler may not be as applicable to interpreted languages.