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“I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”

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2024 points randlet | 4 comments | 12 Jul 18 15:22 UTC | HN request time: 0.865s | source
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antpls ◴[12 Jul 18 18:35 UTC] No.17517358[source]▶
If Guido wasn't himself while writing the PEP572, I ask for a new vote about the PEP572. I vote against it, the PEP572 should not be implemented.

To me, it seems a restricted variant on the specific cases "if" and "while" would be good enough, without generalizing to more cases.

The exemples of assignment with "all()" and "any()" make me sad. Python had only one way of doing things, now it has two.

Reading Python code will be more complicated now than it was 10 years ago for newcomers

Edit : I'm sick of all the downvotes on HN. Everytime we post an opinion against the consensus, it ruins the karma, even if the comment is honest. And of course, I can't downvote people, since people keep downvoting me, I never reach the threshold to vote against any comment. The system is unfair to newcomers.

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1. protomyth ◴[12 Jul 18 19:03 UTC] No.17517605[source]▶
> If Guido wasn't himself while writing the PEP572, I ask for a new vote about the PEP572. I vote against it, the PEP572 should not be implemented.

There is really nothing in the e-mail that indicates that.

I can only imagine the message it would send to recall the PEP. I guess it would confirm his decision in a most callous way.

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2. antpls ◴[12 Jul 18 19:10 UTC] No.17517656[source]▶
Some people on Internet are reconsidering a second vote for the Brexit, while that PEP didn't even have a vote at all, given it was a dictatorship so far.

Guido wrote the principles of Python, the principles should outlive his reign. :-)

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3. protomyth ◴[13 Jul 18 02:37 UTC] No.17520129[source]▶
> Some people on Internet are reconsidering a second vote for the Brexit

That really isn't a fair comparison. This is about one person, not two opposing groups.

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4. antpls ◴[13 Jul 18 16:04 UTC] No.17524108{3}[source]▶
What I meant is, even if democracy isn't perfect (see the Brexit case), a form of democracy maybe a better system in some situation than the dictatorship of one person.