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1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

(blog.cloudflare.com)
1895 points _l4jh | 1 comments | 01 Apr 18 12:14 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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rdsubhas ◴[01 Apr 18 13:30 UTC] No.16728163[source]▶
> We will never sell your data or use it to target ads. Period.

Won't sell != Won't collect

> We will never log your IP address (the way other companies identify you)

Never log IP != Never log anything

Bonus: The way other companies identify you ~= There are other ways

Edit: Looks like many people assume I'm nitpicking. So here are more specific questions:

* Is logging a hashcode of the IP considered as "not logging the IP"?

* Can combination of timestamp, packet info other than end IP (latency, hops, etc), geoIP and other factors be used for deep intelligence?

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fwgwgwgch ◴[01 Apr 18 13:36 UTC] No.16728183[source]▶
AFAIK the only data is domain name, record and the incoming ip. I don't care if they store the first two.

Do you have any actual points against or are you just trying to nitpick? And do you have anything better?

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1. nathanaldensr ◴[01 Apr 18 13:42 UTC] No.16728206[source]▶
Unfortunately, nitpicking is quite necessary. Haven't we seen enough instances of corporations lying through omission? Where is the trend that indicates we should give a more favorable, trustworthy reading to terms and promises like these? I don't see it.

Cloudflare is a for-profit corporation--you know, "duty to shareholders" and all that. We must assume, almost by definition, that they actually have their own self-interests at heart.