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asabjorn ◴[] No.16127096[source]
I am a Norwegian in Silicon Valley that have spent most of my career with Chinese colleagues, both in academia and industry, and my anecdata seem to indicate that my highly talented China-born colleagues are sadly leaving because;

- China has great opportunities for riches

- Getting a US VISA is hard and painful when you come from a populous country like China or India

- My China-born colleagues seem to in general be more conservative, and Silicon Valley has become violently intolerant of anyone that holds an opinion different than the predominant view

Only the first reason is somewhat objective, while the two others cause stress in their daily life as their ability to provide can at any time be removed due to what is perceived as arbitrary reasons. Everything being equal, many of them have told me they would prefer the less crowded Silicon Valley.

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drb91 ◴[] No.16127351[source]
> My China-born colleagues seem to in general be more conservative, and Silicon Valley has become violently intolerant of anyone that holds an opinion different than the predominant view

What exactly does this mean? Are they evangelical baptists, libertarians, reactionaries, nationalist, homophobic, misogynist, racist, anti-atheist, pro family-values, pro corporation, skeptical of global warming, pro fossil fuel energy, war hawks, or something else altogether? It's really quite difficult to interpret your statement as anything meaningful without clarification, and there are ten thousand different ways to be "conservative".

And to be clear, "conservative" is anything but a dirty word or something I'm trying to critique here--just a context-sensitive one. It could be a pejorative or a value.

Otherwise it doesn't add much to the conversation--it is itself a reactionary statement.

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rdtsc ◴[] No.16127581[source]
> What exactly does this mean? Are they evangelical baptists, libertarians, reactionaries, nationalist, homophobic, misogynist, racist,

Wonder if there is a nicer way to ask the person to clarify their point without listing all those things.

Or do you honestly think there is a large number Chinese evangelical baptists who come to SF and work in tech companies.

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electricslpnsld ◴[] No.16127882[source]
> Or do you honestly think there is a large number Chinese evangelical baptists who come to SF and work in tech companies.

There is a quite sizable evangelical Chinese immigrant community in the Bay Area. Whether they work in tech, I don't know.

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1. rdtsc ◴[] No.16130044[source]
Amongst the H1B visa workers? That would be surprising.

It's an interesting topic actually, (and off-topic here) how likely are immigrant communities to switch their traditional religious affiliation after moving to US. In know a Korean family who became Catholic, and often wonder if it is a common thing and if there are patterns.