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lostmsu ◴[] No.16126641[source]
There's one important datapoint in this article: "The Bamboo Ceiling".

When the whole fuzz about gender discrimination started, Microsoft and Google published numbers, claiming women got the same pay at the same positions as men. Knowing there's discrimination from personal experience/feeling, I theorized, that women are discriminated in a different way: they don't receive promotions.

Under otherwise similar circumstances having children does not feel to be enough to explain why of 100 women hired in tech on professional roles less are promoted to higher positions, than of 100 men. That trend is (at least anecdotally for me) observable even before people become parents.

This "Bamboo Ceiling" shows the same effect for another potentially discriminated group of people.

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dominotw ◴[] No.16126781[source]
I have the opposite observation, women do tend to get promoted to managerial roles fairly quickly.
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toomuchtodo ◴[] No.16126838[source]
Good managers have empathy. Women are traditionally more empathetic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19476221/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5110041/

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pacala ◴[] No.16126945[source]
Consider treading more carefully. Your statement, with gender role reversed, caused people to get publicly fired as recent as 2017.
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toomuchtodo ◴[] No.16127057[source]
I work at a traditional enterprise. My (non radical) opinions don’t get me fired (versus the greater tech community).

It’s amusing to see these comments fluctuate wrt karma so quickly for the simple thesis that women might have traits that allow them to be better managers. I even come with study citations!

My condolences to those of you who might work somewhere where your livelihood is threatened for freedom of thought. The job market is great right now FYI.

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