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lostmsu ◴[] No.16126641[source]
There's one important datapoint in this article: "The Bamboo Ceiling".

When the whole fuzz about gender discrimination started, Microsoft and Google published numbers, claiming women got the same pay at the same positions as men. Knowing there's discrimination from personal experience/feeling, I theorized, that women are discriminated in a different way: they don't receive promotions.

Under otherwise similar circumstances having children does not feel to be enough to explain why of 100 women hired in tech on professional roles less are promoted to higher positions, than of 100 men. That trend is (at least anecdotally for me) observable even before people become parents.

This "Bamboo Ceiling" shows the same effect for another potentially discriminated group of people.

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cangencer ◴[] No.16127061[source]
I would think that ceiling exists in almost all countries, and US (and especially SV) does pretty well in terms of having non-natives in the higher rings of management. For example, Germany might have 20+ millions people with foreign roots (20%+ of population) and might look very welcoming to them, but you'd be hard pressed to find many in higher management roles.
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seanmcdirmid ◴[] No.16127088[source]
Uhm, it’s quite easy to find foreigners in top positions at German companies, especially international ones. How many of SAP’s C-suite are even German? Not hard pressed at all.
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denzil_correa ◴[] No.16127206[source]
Interesting - are there any particular studies about this in Germany?
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1. seanmcdirmid ◴[] No.16127274[source]
Not sure, I’m going about it anecdotally, since I’m aware of foreigners in power at German companies, so at least it isn’t “hard pressed.”