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turc1656 ◴[] No.15010817[source]
"In the name of diversity, when we fill quotas to check boxes, we fuck it up for the genuinely amazing women in tech."

Precisely. This goes directly to the core of the issue and what I had brought up on the thread recently about the Google employee who got fired. Specifically, if companies were truly interested in fairness, the only mandate for the interview process would be to hire the best person, no exceptions. By doing this you treat both sexes fairly and give everyone an equal chance. Otherwise, you end up with "reverse sexism", which the author does not explicitly say, however she does essentially admit to in her description of the hiring loop:

"After some rounds of low to no success, we start to compromise and hire women just because we have to"

The only logical conclusion that can be drawn from that is she hired at least a few women over men which she thought were better candidates simply because "we have to". That's a problem.

Overall, though, I thought her piece was well written and she seems to get at the real issue and even has a possible solution that doesn't involve just hiring women for purposes of optics only - fighting the battle far earlier and getting girls interested young so that they choose to enter these fields at a higher rate than they currently are doing.

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canoebuilder ◴[] No.15015689[source]
fighting the battle far earlier and getting girls interested young so that they choose to enter these fields at a higher rate than they currently are doing.

It's your time and energy if you want to do that, but you should probably recognize you're still treating women differently in that case.

Why do you want to pressure or influence people to do something that all the evidence indicates most of them aren't particularly interested in doing?

Shouldn't we be pleased that in an advanced society people have the opportunity to seek out and perform the work they find interesting and fulfilling?

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1. ScottBurson ◴[] No.15021081[source]
To counteract pressure and influence that's already present in the other direction, dissuading some people from doing these things even though they would actually enjoy them.
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2. danellis ◴[] No.15111274[source]
Does it matter if they don't end up doing something they'd enjoy if they end up doing a different thing they enjoy? People talk like writing software is the greatest, most fulfilling job in the world, and if someone misses out on that it's some great detriment to their life.