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johan_larson ◴[] No.14609498[source]
I remain flabbergasted by all of this upheaval at Uber. What's happening is the sort of housecleaning I would expect if the company had to file for bankruptcy or got caught flat out bribing judges or something. But really, what triggered all this was acting like jerks.

It seems to me, what should have happened (a long time ago) was that they got shut down for systematically breaking the law, or encouraging others to do so. That would have made sense.

But instead they are getting flayed alive by not much more than bad press for being jerks. Makes no goddamn sense.

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danaliv ◴[] No.14609615[source]
A jerk is someone who borrows your car and doesn't pay for the dent he puts in the bumper. What happened at Uber was the creation of one of the most insanely hostile work environments in living memory, where flouting not just the law, but also basic standards of human decency, was not only accepted but encouraged at all levels of the company.
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stickfigure ◴[] No.14609728[source]
Did you work there? This narrative is almost comically hyperbolic.

I know exactly one person who works at Uber. She joined as an engineer about a year ago. I asked; she says it is less sexist than every other place she has worked (especially after all the press), and she likes her job. She also says it's a big company and she doesn't know if it's different in other parts.

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stale2002 ◴[] No.14609765[source]
If 50% of women at Uber are perfectly happy at their jobs, and the other 50% are being subject to an illegal hostile work environment, that is not a good track record.

Even if that number was 10%, or 1%, that is still a horrible track record.

They have perhaps taken the criticism and news to heart and changed their ways, but nobody at all denies that there WERENT problems before.

Uber itself has admitted that there were serious problems, and says that they re going to fix them.

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austenallred ◴[] No.14609780[source]
Sure, but the claim is extraordinary and requires extraordinary evidence
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1. stale2002 ◴[] No.14609850{5}[source]
Extraordinary evidence such as basically every C level executive being ousted?

Extraordinary evidence, such as the company itself doing a thorough investigation, finding lots of problems, and then publishing those problems?

Uber itself has shouted to the world that the problems existed, and that they are working to fix them.

I am not sure what other kind of evidence you could get, that is better than the company itself saying that there is a problem.

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2. CamelCaseName ◴[] No.14610162[source]
Perhaps there is something else they are taking the focus away from. (Otto/Google)
3. DonHopkins ◴[] No.14611033[source]
And David Bonderman interrupting Arianna Huffington with a sexist remark and personifying that problem on stage during the all-hands meeting. It doesn't get more extraordinary than that!