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jstanley[dead post] ◴[] No.14330589[source]
Only for the short term. Once enough people have died, prices will reach a new equilibrium.

And you can't keep everybody alive. Population will grow exponentially until something bounds it. The ultimate bound is the amount of resources we can extract per person.

There's going to have to be competition for resources, and those who lose out will die. We may as well get used to that now.

1. arkitaip ◴[] No.14330634[source]
"Once enough people have died, prices will reach a new equilibrium."

What a nasty way of looking at people and the world.

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2. jstanley ◴[] No.14330650[source]
It'll happen whether you like it or not.

Acknowledging it doesn't make a person "nasty".

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3. mgkimsal ◴[] No.14330694[source]
But... it doesn't just "happen" - our behaviours shape how this plays out. And if some of my behaviours can either hasten the death of these folks, or improve their lives in some way, I'd like to know about it, and potentially modify my behaviour.
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4. arkitaip ◴[] No.14330699[source]
I was referring to your opinion and not your person but I have to say that to a complete stranger, you don't come of as that likable when you casually suggest genocide on a global scale as a means to solve the planet's resource crisis. Frankly, I'm tired of constantly reading this line of selfish thinking on HN.
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5. sundaeofshock ◴[] No.14330714[source]
How about cruel and heartless? You are casually suggesting that we just let people die in the streets while companies exploit labor as much as possible.

As a reminder, if conditions get bad enough, that equilibrium you crave comes at the pointy end of pitchforks.

6. jstanley ◴[] No.14330724{3}[source]
Fair points, but note I'm not suggesting genocide. I'm just suggesting there's nothing at all you can do to stop people from dying when there aren't enough resources to support the population. It's an inevitability, and denying that helps nobody.
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7. jstanley ◴[] No.14330730{3}[source]
That's fine. Donate to charities that help the poor and homeless. That's a noble cause.

You will not be able to keep everybody alive. The more people you keep alive, the more people there will be in the next generation who also need to be kept alive.

8. sundaeofshock ◴[] No.14330735{3}[source]
To be fair, they are not advocating genocide. Rather, they are advocating mass starvation which is blind to race, creed or color. Truly an enlightened view!
9. chasote ◴[] No.14331321{4}[source]
Why are you assuming there aren't enough resources?
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10. narrowrail ◴[] No.14331335{5}[source]
Do you believe there is a link between resource consumption and climate change? I do.