←back to thread

1106 points sama | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.225s | source
Show context
iMuzz ◴[] No.12508474[source]
Question/Answer I found interesting:

Sama> How should someone figure out how they should be useful?

Elon> Whatever this thing is you are trying to create.. What would be the utility delta compared to the current state of the art times how many people it would affect?

replies(8): >>12508769 #>>12509450 #>>12509709 #>>12509727 #>>12510398 #>>12513808 #>>12519665 #>>12519971 #
Paul_S ◴[] No.12510398[source]
What about all the people working in marketing, software patent lawyers, drug dealers? You want them to quit their jobs?

---

Let me make my point in a less obtuse way. Most people make decisions about their careers based on opportunity and maximising profit. No one becomes a footballer to make the world a better place. This would all be fine as long as the capitalist market rewarded choices that make the world a better place. Obviously it does not and it's not the fault of a footballer that we as a civilisation choose to channel our available resources their way and not towards frivolous play like space exploration.

If anyone ever figures out a way to make the free market choose the greater good they will win all the Nobel prizes forever (we won't need Nobel prizes after that).

replies(14): >>12510486 #>>12510638 #>>12510652 #>>12510825 #>>12510866 #>>12510867 #>>12510967 #>>12511148 #>>12511243 #>>12511261 #>>12511410 #>>12512634 #>>12514124 #>>12519935 #
leesalminen ◴[] No.12510486[source]
'Tis an interesting point.

> Drug dealers

Perhaps drug dealers (and their suppliers) can implement testing, QA and proper labeling.

I'm not totally sure about software patent lawyers. But, deep down, my gut says that if software patent law wasn't to crappy, perhaps the occupation would be perceived in a better light. Maybe they could push for reform from the inside?

On the whole, I think every industry can do some introspection on how they can affect more people for the betterment of society. It would do us all some good.

replies(2): >>12510559 #>>12510680 #
Paul_S ◴[] No.12510559[source]
Let me make my point in a less obtuse way. Most people make decisions about their careers based on opportunity and maximising profit. No one becomes a footballer to make the world a better place. This would all be fine as long as the capitalist market rewarded choices that make the world a better place. Obviously it does not and it's not the fault of a footballer that we as a civilisation choose to channel our available resources their way and not towards frivolous play like space exploration.

If anyone ever figures out a way to make the free market choose the greater good they will win all the Nobel prizes forever (we won't need Nobel prizes after that).

replies(4): >>12510601 #>>12510608 #>>12510619 #>>12510645 #
1. leesalminen ◴[] No.12510645[source]
Thank you for clarifying. I do agree that it is expected to optimize ones career for maximum income.

Even so, an individual can often choose to push for the greater good within the confines of free market forces.

A footballer can use their image to promote organizations that do good. A SaaS owner can help their customers become more secure and efficient. Lawyers can push for better oversight and reform.

Maybe we can't all be Elon, but we can all try to improve our surroundings.

Maybe I'm too young and naive, but I think it can be done.