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seibelj ◴[] No.12306806[source]
Can anyone succinctly explain the benefits of having a market for private health insurance companies, rather than a single provider of health insurance (government, aka "public option")? Can a capitalist case be made for their existence? Does the lack of a large private insurance market in countries with government-provided health insurance cause lots of inefficiencies and waste?
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njkanjsd ◴[] No.12306825[source]
The healthcare system in countries like France, Canada, Germany is much more efficient and provides better healthcare to most of it's citizens than the US healthcare system pre and post obamacare.

https://www.oecd.org/eco/growth/46508904.pdf

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/press-releases/...

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X86BSD ◴[] No.12307068[source]
Yeah I'm not buying this and never have. You're going to need to cite some kind of scientific statistics or stats or studies.

When people get sick they come to the US for treatment if they can. You don't see world leaders and those with money going to Canada or Europe for treatment. Not when it's dire. The US is hella expensive for many reasons one is that we have the most bleeding edge medical technology.

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njkanjsd ◴[] No.12307115[source]
Here you go: http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/press-releases/...

You can find other articles and studies echoing the same conclusions.

> When people get sick they come to the US for treatment if they can.

No they don't. And many Americans go to other countries for treatment because they can't afford it in the US.

> You don't see world leaders and those with money going to Canada or Europe for treatment.

'Those with money' is a tiny portion of the population, which is why I said 'most citizens' get better healthcare in other countries (developed ones).

> The US is hella expensive for many reasons one is that we have the most bleeding edge medical technology.

Not really, US has some bleeding edge medicine, not the best for every aspect of health, and the bleeding edge stuff is only available to a very tiny portion of the population.

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X86BSD ◴[] No.12307239[source]
reading those now.
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1. X86BSD ◴[] No.12307291{3}[source]
"Now that millions more of Americans have good coverage..."

This link is full of horse poop.

Good coverage? Have you seen what the new ACA plans cover and don't cover?? And the cost??

Good is not a word I would use to describe their coverage.

They should have said "access to coverage" and it would have been more believable.

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2. njkanjsd ◴[] No.12307389[source]
So your only criticism is that you don't like the adjective they used in the summary? Neat.