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Apple and the Gun Emoji

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dade_[dead post] ◴[] No.12240826[source]
This doesn't matter. Under no circumstances are normal people saying bring a gun to a park with Emojis. Only in the US is this even a possibility, and even then, good gunlovng Americans would specify which type of gun to bring. If I need an automatic, a shotgun, a rifle, a good American friend always provides clarity! This article is silly. If you use a gun in a emoji you are not being serious, which means a toy gun is the perfect icon. Americans, please go deal with your lunatic sociopath running for office. For the love of God and all that is holy, my anus is bleeding!
bballer ◴[] No.12240849[source]
> "your lunatic sociopath" should be > "your lunatic sociopaths"

ftfw

Your right though, we should let Apple control and dictate how language is used (since emoticons are now a part of modern day language) since they obviously know best. Btw, you can't legally bring an automatic weapon to a public place. Also nice to know you literally can't speak to just the topic at hand without bringing completely irrelevant topics into the conversation just to spew your political biases, which it seems is what Apple is trying to do, maybe you are just two peas in a pod.

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1. dade_ ◴[] No.12240894[source]
Sorry, this is about America and guns, which means that it is absolutely relevant. For the record, I am Canadian, love guns, but I don't think every fool should be entitled to his tool of rage. All Apple is doing is making an emoji into a toy. If you want to talk about guns, you can do that by spelling it out. If I say, lets bring and AR15 to the gun range, I know what you mean and Apple has done nothing to stop, change or control my speech.
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2. bballer ◴[] No.12240943[source]
See the comment by teddyh:

> The unicode code chart¹ actually says “PISTOL = handgun, > revolver”, and the reference glyph (with a larger version > on page 4) is pretty clearly a Beretta M9.²

> ① http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf#14

> ② http://www.beretta.com/en/m9/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M9

This is Apple breaking from standards to enforce a political agenda, and while we may disagree this is still Apple "changing" your speech, albeit not stopping or controlling it.

Weapons aren't the only thing that can be used as a tool of rage, as we witnessed in Neice France just recently when a packing truck was responsible for more deaths than many acts of gun violence put together. Hiding guns and their representations from the public wont stop criminal elements from abusing them, what we need is laws that punish those who use or brandish guns outside of self defense in a very severe manner. As in your threaten someone or brandish a weapon during the act of a crime and you go to jail for life, case closed. Gun violence would cease overnight and we could still respect the rights granted by the constitution.

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3. Mithaldu ◴[] No.12240956[source]
Since you've seen his comment, please also see my response to that comment and address the points made therein.

Besides, the argument "no av program can catch ALL viruses, so it is pointless to use any av program at all" doesn't carry particularly well, regardless of how you reword it.

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4. dade_ ◴[] No.12240975[source]
I've reviewed this document, but where does it say that this can't be a toy version of the item? Many emojis are cartoon versions. I can even run over cartoon people with cartoon trucks. I can even use my new apple toy gun with toy people. As far as deterrents, I think the evidence is that it is of limited effect, though some studies say more: http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2016/03/criminal... I don't think terrorists care much about jail terms or emojis.
5. bballer ◴[] No.12240982{3}[source]
Replied to comment in question, please read and respond.