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Ubuntu on Windows

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takeda ◴[] No.11392296[source]
Surprised I don't see anyone else mentioning this.

This looks to me like typical Microsoft strategy that they utilized a lot 25 years ago.

1. when not leader in given market, make your product fully compatible with competitor

2. start gaining momentum (e.g. why should I use Linux, when on Windows I can run both Linux and Windows applications)

3. once becoming leader break up compatibility

4. rinse and repeat

Happened with MS-DOS, Word, Excel, Internet Explorer, and others.

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jupiter2 ◴[] No.11393276[source]
Thank you for mentioning this! Really bothered by all the positive comments, especially coming from savvy HN users.

Gave this a long look and my main beef is that I couldn't possibly do anything on a Windows Machine in its' current state. Linux isn't just about running apps - there's a philosophy behind the system. Users first!

As long as Microsoft continues to disrespect the rights of users in regard to privacy, data-collection, data-sharing with unnamed sources, tracking, uncontrollable OS operations (updates, etc) - I will never go near it.

I find it especially offensive that ex-open source and ex-Linux users (working for Microsoft) have the audacity to come on here and try to sell this as a 'Linux on Windows' system when most of what makes Linux special (respect for the user) has been stripped away.

It's like giving a man who is dying of thirst sea water.

Most comments here appear to be positive and that's fine... whatever. To anyone reading this... please don't sell your souls and the future of software technology for ease of use and abusive business practices. /rant

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thegenius2000 ◴[] No.11393673[source]
This is so true I'm loathe to add to it.

I dual boot my laptop b/w Windows and Linux because the WiFi network at my school has issues with Linux...so I'm forced to use Windows, also for games, but it's such a pain. Today it updated forcefully while I was trying to study; I tried to postpone the update but the option was grayed out. The Windows philosophy through and through is to treat users as ignorant and incompetent idiots for whom even the most basic of tasks must be performed, and who cannot make important decisions. This, IMHO, is the epitome of disrespect, and the reason I look forward with great anticipation to the day when I am able to solely operate within computing environments that afford me the same dignity as the cars I drive.

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adrianN ◴[] No.11395476[source]
I hope you only drive old cars, because newer cars aren't really designed to let the user change anything. You always need to take them to a specialist shop.
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creshal ◴[] No.11395729[source]
And the specialist might have to take it to other specialists because the diagnostics and repair equipment is so outrageously proprietary and specific nowadays that only one shop per major city can afford it.
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rkangel ◴[] No.11395793[source]
Which at least partly because have become much more complex things. Complex systems with many electronic and mechanical systems interacting need complex tools to debug.
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1. creshal ◴[] No.11395826[source]
Only partly. There's no technical reason why you need to have 70 differently wired connectors to access the engine computer's UART port… and why they cost over a hundred dollars each.
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2. kagamine ◴[] No.11395986[source]
Or why the error codes are kept secret from the user, resulting in only the dealership, not your local independent, being able to fix some things.

And also the requirement of specialist tools to do non-specialist jobs like set the engine timing, and then charging a lot for purchase of the tool. It will be interesting to see how serviceable electric cars become once they are old enough to start being parted out and the used market expands to those who 'just need something to go from A to B'.