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takeda ◴[] No.11392296[source]
Surprised I don't see anyone else mentioning this.

This looks to me like typical Microsoft strategy that they utilized a lot 25 years ago.

1. when not leader in given market, make your product fully compatible with competitor

2. start gaining momentum (e.g. why should I use Linux, when on Windows I can run both Linux and Windows applications)

3. once becoming leader break up compatibility

4. rinse and repeat

Happened with MS-DOS, Word, Excel, Internet Explorer, and others.

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jupiter2 ◴[] No.11393276[source]
Thank you for mentioning this! Really bothered by all the positive comments, especially coming from savvy HN users.

Gave this a long look and my main beef is that I couldn't possibly do anything on a Windows Machine in its' current state. Linux isn't just about running apps - there's a philosophy behind the system. Users first!

As long as Microsoft continues to disrespect the rights of users in regard to privacy, data-collection, data-sharing with unnamed sources, tracking, uncontrollable OS operations (updates, etc) - I will never go near it.

I find it especially offensive that ex-open source and ex-Linux users (working for Microsoft) have the audacity to come on here and try to sell this as a 'Linux on Windows' system when most of what makes Linux special (respect for the user) has been stripped away.

It's like giving a man who is dying of thirst sea water.

Most comments here appear to be positive and that's fine... whatever. To anyone reading this... please don't sell your souls and the future of software technology for ease of use and abusive business practices. /rant

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city41 ◴[] No.11394793[source]
I think a key point that is being missed here is most of the people excited about this probably run OSX, not Linux. OSX has long been the "'Linux' for people who don't really want to run Linux" (not really meant as an insult, I'm typing this from OSX right now).

Apple is just as proprietary, commercial and anti-competitive as Microsoft here.

FWIW, this excites me because it potentially means I can go from two machines to one, and always have IE/Edge at my fingertips. It will greatly improve my dev workflow if it pans out like people are hoping it does.

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1. creshal ◴[] No.11395718[source]
> The big difference is that Apple actually doesn't fk their users in the ass.

Like with their SMB support? When, given the choice of complying with the GPL or re-writing an SMB client from scratch, Apple chose the latter and subjected users to utterly broken SMB support for several releases just so they did not have to open source their pitiful collection of patches?

2. recursive ◴[] No.11395775[source]
Apple is pretty user-hostile. Moreso than MS in my estimation. Try changing the battery in your iphone, or getting music on it without using itunes.
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3. eertami ◴[] No.11395838[source]
>I will happily keep on paying high price for the Apple products in the future too as long as all of my personal data is not being broadcasted

Yeah I'm sure all those celebs that had all their nude photos stolen from icloud would totally agree that Apple takes great care with personal data.

Are you trying to justify needlessly spending 600$ on a phone every year? That's your prerogative, you don't have to convince strangers on the internet.

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4. riotdash ◴[] No.11395872[source]
"Yeah I'm sure all those celebs that had all their nude photos stolen from icloud would totally agree that Apple takes great care with personal data."

All systems have had and still have security flaws. There is a world of difference between having a unknown vulnerability (which affects and will affect all platforms) and intentionally spying on users and stealing their information.

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5. creshal ◴[] No.11395935[source]
> Try changing the battery in your iphone

Try changing the battery in your Lumia.

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6. nxzero ◴[] No.11395999{3}[source]
All systems have flaws at some point, but not all systems equal in terms of exploitable value for the effort.
7. rdsnsca ◴[] No.11396159[source]
Apples security was not breached, those celebrities fell for a phishing scam.
8. johnchristopher ◴[] No.11396264{3}[source]
My Lumia 640 has replaceable battery. It might be a windows phone though.
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9. toxican ◴[] No.11396700{3}[source]
And I'll try changing it in my Nexus. We're at the point where the inability to change your battery is pretty common place on flagship phones.
10. creshal ◴[] No.11397699{4}[source]
Hah! You're right. Microsoft's own devices actually do all have replaceable batteries, only (most of) the older Nokia-branded Lumias have soldered batteries.
11. JoeAltmaier ◴[] No.11397706[source]
Sure. But aren't we past changing batteries? They're less an issue than changing screens these days. And screens have never been easily replaceable. Its just us old folks who expect the battery to come out.
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12. recursive ◴[] No.11397997{3}[source]
Those of us that aren't drinking the apple kool aid aren't past changing batteries. And I'm old. Perhaps Apple is just old-person-hostile, which amounts to about the same thing for me.
13. recursive ◴[] No.11398003{3}[source]
Serious.