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535 points raddad | 7 comments | 30 Mar 16 11:12 UTC | HN request time: 1.692s | source | bottom
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0x0 ◴[30 Mar 16 16:33 UTC] No.11390517[source]▶
I wonder if this will mean that Windows will ship a more up to date Bash than OSX!

Apple stopped updating Bash in OSX when the upstream license changed from GPL2 to GPL3, I believe. (Fortunately, they keep the bundled zsh more up to date)

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1. hxegon ◴[30 Mar 16 16:43 UTC] No.11390634[source]▶
wow, so... 2007?
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2. 0x0 ◴[30 Mar 16 16:47 UTC] No.11390687[source]▶
Yup

    % uname -a; bash --version; zsh --version
    Darwin hostname 15.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 15.4.0: 
    Fri Feb 26 22:08:05 PST 2016; root:xnu-3248.40.184~3/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
    
    GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin15)
    Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    
    zsh 5.0.8 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.0)
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3. jonhohle ◴[30 Mar 16 16:49 UTC] No.11390721[source]▶

    $> uname -a
    Darwin K2523 15.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 15.4.0: Fri Feb 26 22:08:05 PST 2016; root:xnu-3248.40.184~3/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
    $> which bash
    /bin/bash
    $> bash --version
    GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin15)
    Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
4. y4mi ◴[30 Mar 16 17:03 UTC] No.11390881[source]▶
thank goodness zsh is the superior shell anyway
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5. stula_0 ◴[30 Mar 16 17:21 UTC] No.11391058{3}[source]▶
It really should be the default shell by now. I don't the see the point in Apple maintaining the 2007 version of bash with security updates when they can just promote ZSH which has near 0 breaking changes from bash
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6. NetStrikeForce ◴[30 Mar 16 17:52 UTC] No.11391403{4}[source]▶
Apple can't do that or many people will just move away to... Well, Windows now.

Users with zsh as their default shell are a tiny minority.

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7. JdeBP ◴[03 Apr 16 14:00 UTC] No.11416116{5}[source]▶
The former is nonsense, and the latter sheer unsupported guesswork.

The actual evidence from history of changing shells, from the Ubuntu and Debian worlds where they actually did make a change of shells (from Bourne Again to Debian Almquist) a few years ago, is that it doesn't drive people away in the first place, let alone away to Windows.

Even if one did a survey to make the latter not unsupported guesswork, one would have (if my experience of StackExchange is anything to go by) to account for all of those who answered that "My shell is Terminal.app." or "I have oh-my-zsh as my terminal.".