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chris_wot ◴[] No.11153650[source]
Ok, so I was wrong when I said Lennart Pottering's original response was "pretty appalling".

Unlikely he saw it, but my apologies nonetheless.

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coldpie ◴[] No.11154059[source]
Poettering gets shit on a lot. While his software does often have problems, he is really well-intentioned and working on really hard things that really do need fixing. New software simply has bugs and problems, and while the transition period can be rough, I think things will be really improved when we break through to the other side.
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cyphar ◴[] No.11154953[source]
People don't hate systemd because it has bugs. People hate it because it's clear that it thinks it owns your system and that its manifest destiny is to contain all software that exists.
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cbd1984 ◴[] No.11156347[source]
No, they hate it because they think hating it is a good way to troll people.

It isn't honest hatred, it's just dancing around making ugly faces, like a six-year-old.

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chris_wot ◴[] No.11156842[source]
I really like systemd, but I think that's not accurate. People have well thought through reasons for disliking systemd
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coldpie ◴[] No.11158988[source]
However, "it's clear that it thinks it owns your system and that its manifest destiny is to contain all software that exists" is not one of those well-thought-through reasons :P
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1. chris_wot ◴[] No.11161593[source]
I don't disagree :-)

It would be hilarious for it to take over LibreOffice or FireFox.

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2. cyphar ◴[] No.11232612[source]
Well, it's already taken over your logging system (storing things in a binary format, which means you're fucked if it gets corrupted), your bootloader, top, it provides an alternative container runtime, etc. It's just a matter of time. :P