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INTPenis ◴[] No.10736741[source]
Since I'm completely surprised by this project and very attracted to it I thought it was best to google around for some perspective. Found this http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960524/laptop-computers/why-...

Among other things. My first question was, is the hardware open? Couldn't find an answer to that.

Edit: Apparently revision 2 of Purism will possibly have Coreboot.

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conradev ◴[] No.10736798[source]
Also worth noting is the Novena, which has similar goals: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena
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satai ◴[] No.10736813[source]
Novena contains 4x Cortex A9 CPU, thet is much less power and not enough power for more serious work :(
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david-given ◴[] No.10737090{3}[source]
I just benchmarked my shiny new Asus Chromebook Flip (4-core ARM) against my ludicrously overpowered desktop (12-core Xeon E5-1650). I ran povray --benchmark, so it was a float-heavy number-crunching exercise.

The figures were about 1500 CPU-seconds for the desktop and 3000 CPU-seconds for the Chromebook. Of course, wall-clock time was significantly less for the desktop due to having many more cores, but that's showing that per-core, the high-end Intel was only about twice as fast as the ARM.

I do development work on the Chromebook, via a Debian chroot inside Crouton. And you know what? It's fine. It's probably the fastest laptop I've ever owned. The filesystem's a little slow, but compilation speeds are perfectly adequate.

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ggreer ◴[] No.10737395{4}[source]
I don't think your numbers are correct. My Core i7-4770K (4 cores) runs povray --benchmark faster than your 12 core Xeon:

    Render Time:
      Photon Time:      0 hours  0 minutes  1 seconds (1.256 seconds)
                  using 11 thread(s) with 1.456 CPU-seconds total
      Radiosity Time:   No radiosity
      Trace Time:       0 hours  2 minutes 18 seconds (138.426 seconds)
                  using 8 thread(s) with 1099.214 CPU-seconds total
That's POV-Ray 3.7 with no architectural optimizations. I just apt-get installed it.

I would be very surprised if the Chromebook's 1.8GHz Cortex-A17 was only 3x slower. Googling around, I see people mentioning numbers like 10,000 CPU-seconds.

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1. david-given ◴[] No.10740464{5}[source]
I just reran it. I don't have access to the 12x Xeon now, but:

8x i7-3770K: 1123 cpu-seconds (wall-clock: 144 seconds)

4x Cortex A17: 3196 cpu-seconds (wall-clock: 963 seconds)

I just wish it had more cores, but I suspect that Rockchip are raking in money from these things, and I expect we'll get more cores next year.

The 12x Xeon was my work machine. I might have to have a word with them about it.