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Qubes OS will ship pre-installed on Purism’s security-focused Librem 13 laptop

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154 points walterbell | 1 comments | 15 Dec 15 07:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.213s | source
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INTPenis ◴[15 Dec 15 09:24 UTC] No.10736741[source]▶
Since I'm completely surprised by this project and very attracted to it I thought it was best to google around for some perspective. Found this http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960524/laptop-computers/why-...

Among other things. My first question was, is the hardware open? Couldn't find an answer to that.

Edit: Apparently revision 2 of Purism will possibly have Coreboot.

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conradev ◴[15 Dec 15 09:42 UTC] No.10736798[source]▶
Also worth noting is the Novena, which has similar goals: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena
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satai ◴[15 Dec 15 09:48 UTC] No.10736813[source]▶
Novena contains 4x Cortex A9 CPU, thet is much less power and not enough power for more serious work :(
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david-given ◴[15 Dec 15 11:04 UTC] No.10737090[source]▶
I just benchmarked my shiny new Asus Chromebook Flip (4-core ARM) against my ludicrously overpowered desktop (12-core Xeon E5-1650). I ran povray --benchmark, so it was a float-heavy number-crunching exercise.

The figures were about 1500 CPU-seconds for the desktop and 3000 CPU-seconds for the Chromebook. Of course, wall-clock time was significantly less for the desktop due to having many more cores, but that's showing that per-core, the high-end Intel was only about twice as fast as the ARM.

I do development work on the Chromebook, via a Debian chroot inside Crouton. And you know what? It's fine. It's probably the fastest laptop I've ever owned. The filesystem's a little slow, but compilation speeds are perfectly adequate.

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1. satai ◴[15 Dec 15 13:39 UTC] No.10737658[source]▶
(I am not ARM hater, the oposite is true. I admire the work Apple did when designing A9 -not the Cortex one - and I hope I can buy a lightweight laptop with Cortex A72 or Cryo next year. But this doesn't make Novena effort any way usable for heavy web usage or more demanding tasks or comparable with i5 notebooks for work..)