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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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623 points franzb | 1 comments | 14 Nov 15 00:25 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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coldcode ◴[14 Nov 15 01:47 UTC] No.10563950[source]▶
Right now we don't know who these people are, where they came from and what their aims were (besides terror). Of course terror is exactly this, you don't know, you imagine the worst, and everyone reacts, often pointlessly. I wonder why France?
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imaginenore ◴[14 Nov 15 02:10 UTC] No.10564047[source]▶
We know exactly who they are: islamists. We have video recordings where you can hear them yelling "allahu Akbar" while shooting.

42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-ameri...

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auntienomen ◴[14 Nov 15 03:44 UTC] No.10564343[source]▶
42% is appalling, but so what? What's your conclusion? (Recall that a majority of Americans have no problem with dropping bombs on foreign civilians.)
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imaginenore ◴[14 Nov 15 07:08 UTC] No.10564808[source]▶
42% in a western non-islamic country is huge. My conclusion is that Islam is not compatible with the western cultures, with things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, personal freedoms, and it's a huge mistake for Europe to allow so many of them in. You don't have to believe me, listen to the muslims themselves talk about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU&t=138s

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1. deciplex ◴[15 Nov 15 15:59 UTC] No.10569934{3}[source]▶
Have you noticed that Muslims in e.g. the US and Germany are by and large less radical than the broader population there? Islam doesn't seem to be particularly incompatible with Western culture, rather it seems to be incompatible with France. And I doubt it's something about French culture in particular either - if I was looking for what the difference is the first thing I'd do is look at French domestic policy and whether any of that stuff disproportionately affects immigrants or Muslims.