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littletimmy ◴[] No.10563930[source]
The war on terror has been going on for 15 years now - are there more terrorists in 2000 or 2015?

Sooner or later, we will have to come to the realization that terrorism cannot be eliminated by force. Stop destabilizing Arab countries, stop imperial interference in Northern Africa, and perhaps we'll see an end to this nonsense.

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rythmshifter ◴[] No.10564135[source]
I'm curious, under what logic would this stop or get any better if we allow the cancer to grow?
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littletimmy ◴[] No.10564187[source]
By the same logic that a wound heals when you stop poking the scab.

If there's any lesson from the past 15 years, it is this: state engineering does not work. Period. You cannot control it. You don't "allow" anything. You cannot stop anything. The forces are beyond your control.

Americans and Europeans have to step out of the colonial mindset of trying to control the world. Then we'll have peace.

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1. oldboyFX ◴[] No.10568151[source]
Then we'll hopefully have peace, perhaps.

> By the same logic that a wound heals when you stop poking the scab.

Except that our governments see themselves as providing first aid to an infected wound. Infected wounds only get worse without treatment.

> If there's any lesson from the past 15 years, it is this: state engineering does not work. Period.

Their intention was (probably) good, execution on the other hand was less then stellar.

> You cannot control it. You don't "allow" anything. You cannot stop anything. The forces are beyond your control.

1940's France would beg to disagree. The Allies in WW2 clearly stopped the Axis powers and controlled their aggression.

> Americans and Europeans have to step out of the colonial mindset of trying to control the world.

Agreed.