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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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kevindeasis ◴[14 Nov 15 12:48 UTC] No.10565476[source]▶
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ChickenInASuit8h535: ISIS aren't really trying to "solve" anything in the countries they're attacking, the main motivation behind these attacks is to widen the rift between Islam and the West and bring more moderate Muslims over to their side

alpual7h345: And I'm sure backlash and discrimination resulting from this attack will further alienate Muslims in France. I'm sure that's part of their intention, and I wonder why I don't see that being discussed much. Thanks for pointing that out.

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cLeEOGPw ◴[14 Nov 15 13:32 UTC] No.10565596[source]▶
This is a losing game for us. If we don't make ANY backlash, then the terrorists will be encouraged to repeat attacks, as they see there are no consequences for their actions. Additionally, French will be more afraid of Muslims and will surrender whatever they have to them even more willingly, as they would feel helpless. On the other hand if we make backlash, more muslims will radicalize, again, increasing terrorism frequency. The only solution I see is finally admit that multiculturalism is a lost cause when only one culture actually trying for it to work (us), and expel all muslims that don't fit our culture, PLUS invest heavy money into converting current muslims to be more like us. Ban certain practices, etc.
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1. kevindeasis ◴[14 Nov 15 14:13 UTC] No.10565719[source]▶
San Francisco seems to be a great example of multiculturalism. I have to admit that I disagree with a good amount of the things you said. I think that we will need multiculturalism to move forward. If we look back into our past, terrible things have come from preventing multiculturalism. What do you think about my statement?
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2. cLeEOGPw ◴[14 Nov 15 19:21 UTC] No.10566835[source]▶
What terrible thing came from preventing multiculturalism? None. On the contrary - terrible things happened BECAUSE of multiculturalism. Several groups of people cannot live as a community when their ideas of a community are different. "Multiculturalism" is only possible when the cultures WANT to live together. In our case here in Europe, whites want to live together with muslims, but muslims don't. Ant that is the problem. We can not fix it, only muslims can. And if they won't fix it, terrible things WILL happen. We are doing our part. It's time for other cultures to do theirs. And if they won't, we will have no choice.