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po1nter ◴[] No.10563599[source]
According to iTele there are now 118 dead.

Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(

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toyg ◴[] No.10563630[source]
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria).

The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack without being preempted, in a situation of maximum alert, will heavy on the minds of any French citizen regardless of whether victims were 118 or 119. Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective. That is a huge problem.

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sosborn ◴[] No.10563681[source]
> Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective.

How can a country possibly prevent these things while still maintaining a free society?

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fein[dead post] ◴[] No.10563756[source]
Arm your citizens.

Edit: Seems HN would rather die on their knees. Shame.

NotHereNotThere ◴[] No.10564065[source]
I fail to see how arming citizens would prevent bombs from blowing them up.

What the hell is wrong with people, suggesting guns as a solution to unpredictable violent situations where guns wouldn't make any difference.

You arm citizens, now what? Shoot anyone that looks mildly suspicious? Hear a bomb go off, you take out your gun then scare the shit out of people surrounding you, then get shot by somebody else that thinks you're part of the bombing?

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fein ◴[] No.10564468[source]
There were active shooters in this instance.

Not much you can do about bombs, see Timothy McVeigh.

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