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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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623 points franzb | 1 comments | 14 Nov 15 00:25 UTC | HN request time: 0.205s | source
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coldcode ◴[14 Nov 15 01:47 UTC] No.10563950[source]▶
Right now we don't know who these people are, where they came from and what their aims were (besides terror). Of course terror is exactly this, you don't know, you imagine the worst, and everyone reacts, often pointlessly. I wonder why France?
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imaginenore ◴[14 Nov 15 02:10 UTC] No.10564047[source]▶
We know exactly who they are: islamists. We have video recordings where you can hear them yelling "allahu Akbar" while shooting.

42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-ameri...

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1. rbancroft ◴[14 Nov 15 03:56 UTC] No.10564373[source]▶
I agree they most likely were Islamist, although incidentally saying Allahu Akbar is not a very precise way of identifying an Islamist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir

To quote from the page: 'In videos released during the course of the Syrian Civil War, Free Syrian Army, Al-Nusra Front, other rebel and Islamist groups and ISIL are heard shouting "Takbir" and "Allahu Akbar"'

Some of those are Islamist groups, some are not.

Also, we don't know if the perpetrators were French or not, so what 42% of young French Muslims believe is not relevant at this point. Even if it was relevant, it would be hard to draw any conclusions from it. In the same link you provide, it seems that over 75% of French Muslims are concerned about the rise of Islamic Extremism.