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usaphp ◴[] No.10564013[source]
I don't understand how can you talk about ISIS, Nazis and Communists in the same sentence? Communism has nothing to do with violence compared to ISIS and Nazis...

Edit: Why downvotes? Idea of communism does not propose violence, Nazis and ISIS on the other hand do.

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erickhill ◴[] No.10564108[source]
As horrific and scary as terrorist acts are to civil societies (and impactful to our politics), Stalin's rule was far more devastating. "In February 1989, two years before the fall of the Soviet Union, a research paper by Georgian historian Roy Aleksandrovich Medvedev published in the weekly tabloid Argumenti i Fakti estimated that the death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives (on top of the estimated 20 million Soviet troops and civilians who perished in the Second World War), for a total tally of 40 million." http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kil...
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usaphp ◴[] No.10564159[source]
The article you mentioned has no explanation of where he got those figures, as far as I know there is no official data on this and estimates range from 3Mln to 60Mln [1], which as you can see is quite bizarre estimate. According to official documents there were 799,455 people executed in a period from 1921 to 1953 [2] and keep in mind that's a total number of execution, not only those that were executed for political reasons, and that's over a span of 30+ years, so thats around 72 person a day across a whole soviet union territory (around 160+Mln people)

> on top of the estimated 20 million Soviet troops and civilians who perished in the Second World War

What does it have to do with Stalin? It was a war and people perish during a War.

> estimated that the death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives

Just think about it, Stalin was in power for 30 years, so he had to "directly attribute" to a death of 2000 people every single day? Sounds quite bizarre to me. No official data of the 20Mln of "dead by Stalin's attributing", if you want to down vote me - at least show me official data.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Calculating_the_...

[2] - http://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/sep/12/highereduca...

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mietek ◴[] No.10564296[source]
Let’s start with the Holodomor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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1. balladeer ◴[] No.10564346[source]
Since we are talking about man-made hunger at large scale I thought Churchill deserved a mention - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943