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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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livatlantis ◴[14 Nov 15 01:17 UTC] No.10563828[source]▶
In Paris right now. We are in shock. At both the scale and the extremely coordinated nature of the attacks on civilians at multiple locations.

I work near rue Bichat and Le Petit Cambodge, a warm little restaurant in the 10e that my colleagues and I frequent, where people were tonight killed. The Bataclan is a well-known concert venue for metal bands, where I've seen several bands play live. Les Halles is at the center of Paris. Everyone who lives here has close connections to these areas; they took place very close to our everyday lives. Even those of us fortunate enough to know that our friends are safe are reeling from what has happened.

This is the first time since the Second World War that France has declared a state of emergency.

It's too early to come to any conclusions. It's too early to talk about immediate and long-term ramifications, about connections to the refugees, how these events will make France more 'communautariste'. That time will come, but it's too early right now.

It's 2am right now, Paris is mostly awake. We mourn those who lost their lives.

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conradk ◴[14 Nov 15 01:40 UTC] No.10563934[source]▶
Actually, this is not the first time that France has declared a state of emergency.

It was declared in 1984 and 2005. And it was declared in Algeria in the 1950s and 1960s.

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1. asasasasasas ◴[14 Nov 15 01:46 UTC] No.10563947[source]▶
The OP meant that this is the first time since WWII that France has closed its borders, which is true.

For those curious about 2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_riots#State_of_eme...

Edit: I was wrong, the President said the borders were closed, but then clarified that they weren't.

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2. janus24 ◴[14 Nov 15 01:53 UTC] No.10563978[source]▶
The borders are not closed, it's just a restoration of border controls.
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3. RockyMcNuts ◴[14 Nov 15 01:56 UTC] No.10563996[source]▶
I don't think they closed their borders. They invoked the Schengen protocol for re-instituting border controls. Under Schengen driving from France to Italy or Germany is like driving from Texas to Louisiana. But there is a clause allowing re-instituting border controls under certain conditions, including a national security emergency.

[edit: source France24; http://mashable.com/2015/11/13/france-border-airlines-flight... . Hollande did refer to 'fermeture des frontières' which is confusing https://twitter.com/Elysee/status/665314066106159104 ]

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5. igrekel ◴[14 Nov 15 02:25 UTC] No.10564117[source]▶
Border controls were already restored in preparation for the Paris conference.
6. 001sky ◴[14 Nov 15 03:11 UTC] No.10564248[source]▶
"Live updates: At least 100 dead, multiple sites attacked, France's borders closed"

--LA Times Headline

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7. tajen ◴[14 Nov 15 08:50 UTC] No.10565005{3}[source]▶
This was corrected by the President's office, clarifying "closing the borders" as "restoring border controls". As a side note, during Shengen, border police still exists but is allowed to place controls wherever they want. It's not clear to my why controls at the borders is more efficient than intense, random in-land controls.