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po1nter ◴[] No.10563599[source]
According to iTele there are now 118 dead.

Edit: Now it's up to 140. What a sad day :(

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toyg ◴[] No.10563630[source]
Reworded to avoid offence (hopefully): deaths are not irrelevant, but their exact precise number is irrelevant. What matters is the scale of the security failure, compounded by the fact that they suffered a similar one less than a year ago and they were currently on high-alert (because they've only just started bombing Syria).

The knowledge that a network could carry out such a widespread and well-coordinated attack without being preempted, in a situation of maximum alert, will heavy on the minds of any French citizen regardless of whether victims were 118 or 119. Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective. That is a huge problem.

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1. espadrine ◴[] No.10563716[source]
> Basically, the French security system has been revealed as completely ineffective.

As an aside, strong suveillance laws were voted earlier this year.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&pr...

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2. toyg ◴[] No.10563773[source]
Exactly. Fat lot of good it did to them. Clearly the whole approach is simply wrong.
3. slantedview ◴[] No.10563821[source]
If you see and hear everything, you will know nothing.