Two HN Announcements

>I don't plan to be very involved--other than as an enthusiastic user (who would, however, prefer that it be easier to read on a phone)

I always assumed not having a mobile style sheet was intentional to slow down eternal September, but if sama is asking for it then that can't be the case, right?

But most of the complaints about that are coming from existing Hacker News users, for whom the experience on mobile is terrible.

If Hacker News was as adamant about stopping the Eternal September effect as some people believe, they would demand references and a CV before letting anyone join, or else be invite-only like lobste.rs. Not having a mobile stylesheet doesn't really seem like it would help in that regard.

Cynicism and incivility are far more corrosive to this community than the Eternal September effect could be, anyway.

>demand references and a CV

That would not be HN and would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I would imagine most users have used a throwaway acct to make some comment without being brutalized, and some of the best comments come from new users.

> But most of the complaints about that are coming from existing Hacker News users, for whom the experience on mobile is terrible.

I'm not sure what your argument is here. Who else would complain? The people who have been driven away?

My argument is that not having a mobile stylesheet isn't keeping low quality users from showing up, it's mostly annoying the ones who are already here. As a way of holding back the Eternal September effect, bad mobile UX seems like a specious idea at best - which is why I doubt that has anything to do with the state of the mobile experience here.

"Looking at who complains" isn't evidence of that, though. One could argue that the low quality users are so turned off by the mobile experience that they can't even complain about it.

That said, I wouldn't mind a better mobile site. If we want to be elitist about it, just make it available for users with > 10 karma. ;)