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    Firefox to create AI Window: Built for choice and control

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    17 points bkma | 22 comments | 10 Dec 25 07:55 UTC | HN request time: 1.123s | source | bottom
    1. Hackbraten ◴[10 Dec 25 08:20 UTC] No.46215371[source]▶
    Mozilla still doesn't get it.
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    2. digitalPhonix ◴[10 Dec 25 09:25 UTC] No.46215759[source]▶
    There’s no info on what the AI does? Or where the AI runs? Or anything really?

    Is it just Mozilla testing the waters with the announcement?

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    3. sherr ◴[10 Dec 25 09:27 UTC] No.46215770[source]▶
    Get what?

    The page says this thing will be opt-in. As it also says, they can't ignore the effect AI is having in the world. I'm not much of a fan of a lot of this effect, but see some benefits in places.

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    4. kh_hk ◴[10 Dec 25 09:49 UTC] No.46215908[source]▶
    Welcome to zombo.com. You can do anything at zombo.com
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    5. fasbiner ◴[10 Dec 25 10:03 UTC] No.46216006[source]▶
    Mozilla leadership are quite literally ex-google and current google loyalists, who are paid to create the appearance of a competitive browser landscape for regulators, judges, and lawmakers who started out obtuse and are now increasingly openly bribed.

    Mozilla's job is to go through the motions of competing for regulatory obfuscation, not to ever actually compete. That's why the salaries at this non-profit keep going up as Mozilla marketshare keeps going down.

    If they wanted to actually compete they could integrate with LMStudio or similar to give their non-technical users locally running open models, that would be maximally opt-in and privacy preserving. It wouldn't even take that long.

    Instead, we get another resume-padding fake "product" for someone to put on their resume before it's quietly forgotten, all for a browser with 3% marketshare and plummeting.

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    6. kotaKat ◴[10 Dec 25 10:39 UTC] No.46216232[source]▶
    How many more obscure lines will I need to add to my prefs to shut the AI Window up, even if it's "opt in"? How many lines are we up to now to defang the browser?
    7. conartist6 ◴[10 Dec 25 11:03 UTC] No.46216395[source]▶
    "The web is changing, and sitting it out doesn’t help anyone."

    Does this just mean "the basilisk is coming and we want to make sure we're seen serving it"

    8. conartist6 ◴[10 Dec 25 11:07 UTC] No.46216428{3}[source]▶
    They could ignore it. Why not? I switched from Chrome to FF and FF hard-locks 3x a day for me now. Force quit, start over. Is an AI window going to stop me going back to Chrome? Who cares if FF has an AI window if FF is too janky to be a good web browser... It's just lipstick on a pig.
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    9. Balloonary ◴[10 Dec 25 11:29 UTC] No.46216564[source]▶
    this is the single most underrated website ever LOL
    10. yupyupyups ◴[10 Dec 25 11:36 UTC] No.46216612{4}[source]▶
    >FF hard-locks 3x a day for me now.

    I've never had this problem. Which OS do you run?

    11. embedding-shape ◴[10 Dec 25 12:10 UTC] No.46216826{4}[source]▶
    > FF hard-locks 3x a day for me now

    That's not normal, and certainly not a typical reason people avoid Firefox. Have you given it a try and investigated if this is solvable? Sounds like one of those issues that if you ignore, it'll just pop up elsewhere with some other program.

    12. ferfumarma ◴[10 Dec 25 12:20 UTC] No.46216908[source]▶
    kayfabe competition.
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    13. m4rc3lv ◴[10 Dec 25 12:37 UTC] No.46217027[source]▶
    Wat is an AI window?
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    14. bkma ◴[10 Dec 25 12:52 UTC] No.46217136[source]▶
    Their announcement does not reveal much, perhaps signing up will reveal more. But I am hesitant to do that since I don't even know if I want this feature.

    On the other hand, are they even listening to their users or are they just adding AI to everything?

    15. cyanydeez ◴[10 Dec 25 13:21 UTC] No.46217381{3}[source]▶
    Much like Americas regulatory and soon to be administrative.
    16. Tempest1981 ◴[10 Dec 25 14:37 UTC] No.46218175{4}[source]▶
    Damned if they do AI, damned if they don't.
    17. Tempest1981 ◴[10 Dec 25 14:39 UTC] No.46218209[source]▶
    That's part of the marketing tease... sign up to find out, or move on if you're not interested. Or get the pitchforks if you hate being teased.
    18. xg15 ◴[10 Dec 25 14:46 UTC] No.46218267[source]▶
    It's an announcement of an announcement of a GUI element.
    19. xacky ◴[10 Dec 25 15:16 UTC] No.46218614[source]▶
    I remember when some browsers made social networking modes or crypto/web3 modes, they all disappeared quickly.
    20. ChrisArchitect ◴[10 Dec 25 16:37 UTC] No.46219880[source]▶
    Blog post: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-window/

    and a response discussion:

    I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45926779

    21. DANmode ◴[10 Dec 25 19:21 UTC] No.46222283[source]▶
    They’re still being paid hundreds of millions yearly to not get it.

    So, unsurprising.