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12 points lucaherrorpress | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source

I wrote two satirical books about algorithmic manipulation (GPT-5 drafts + Claude editing, fully transparent about it). Zero Amazon sales for months.

Posted free PDFs on Reddit's r/nosurf Friday: - 5,300 views in 3 days - #12 post of the day - Main criticism: "AI slop instantly detectable" - Best response: detailed breakdown of everything I did wrong

The feedback boiled down to: I skipped community building, went straight to Amazon, no beta readers, no early supporters. Published first, looked for audience second. Classic backwards approach.

One commenter said: "Find a community, become respected member FIRST, share progress during writing, collaborate with peers at your level, THEN launch when 50-100 people are waiting."

I did the opposite of every point.

For those who've successfully launched indie content/products (especially critical of tech systems): what's the actual path in 2024?

Substack + email list first? Reddit/forum engagement for months before launch? Something else?

Not looking for promotion—genuinely trying to understand if this is salvageable or expensive education for the next project.

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WheelsAtLarge ◴[] No.46184693[source]
Books are a hard sell. Think about it. You need to get someone to spend their time, lots of time, reading a book they have very little knowledge about. You have to convince them that its worth their time. You do that though promotion and trust. It takes time and hard work. Most authors, by a long shot, don't make money from a book , specifically their first. It takes lots of promotion and time to get started as an author.

The author of The Martian gave away the book for years before it caught on and made money for him and that book is outstanding.

Writing is a career not a one time book. Even then, it's a hard career to make a living at. Many people use books to express their ideas as a way to improve their true career. Think politicians that are running for office. Or people that want to improve their resume.

You need to continue to promote your book and hope it catches on. Think of it as a hobby until you can turn it into a career.

Also, if you tell me it's written by AI, I automatically think it's not something I want to read. I can get any LLM to write stuff to read. I don't need to buy a book. Use AI to help you but use your own style and words to write something people want to read. People are writing books written by AI by the thousands. You need to standout in that crowded market place. Good luck.

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1. shoo ◴[] No.46186742[source]
"Using LLMs at Oxide" [0], as seen on the HN frontpage yesterday, had a bit to say about LLMs as writers

> LLM-generated prose undermines a social contract of sorts: absent LLMs, it is presumed that of the reader and the writer, it is the writer that has undertaken the greater intellectual exertion. (That is, it is more work to write than to read!) For the reader, this is important: should they struggle with an idea, they can reasonably assume that the writer themselves understands it — and it is the least a reader can do to labor to make sense of it.

> If, however, prose is LLM-generated, this social contract becomes ripped up: a reader cannot assume that the writer understands their ideas because they might not so much have read the product of the LLM that they tasked to write it. If one is lucky, these are LLM hallucinations: obviously wrong and quickly discarded. If one is unlucky, however, it will be a kind of LLM-induced cognitive dissonance: a puzzle in which pieces don’t fit because there is in fact no puzzle at all. This can leave a reader frustrated: why should they spend more time reading prose than the writer spent writing it?

[0] https://rfd.shared.oxide.computer/rfd/0576