Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop

> Consumer electronics naming is very simple. Make a good product with a simple name. “iPhone”, “comma”, “Z Fold”. Then every year or two, add one to the number of that product. If it’s a small refresh, you can add a letter after the number. “2 3 3X 4” “4 4s 5 5s 6 …” “2 3 4 5 6 7” Why is this so hard for companies like HP?

Oh man I feel this every time there’s a games console launch. I still have no idea what the latest Xbox is called but Sony gets it right with “Playstation <N>”

Apple loses some points here since every macbook from like 2007 until 2020 was just called “Macbook pro” with no year officially in the name so you have to be really careful when eg looking at used listings for macbooks. But since the M1 it’s been good with M<1-5>

If I dare to ask, why do you care so much about naming ?

It's something that has always bothered me in reviews as well. To me a product is primarily supposed to be used, and I also don't want to buy a new one every 6 months.

For instance I like my headphones very much, been using them for 4 years now. I did a ton of research and read a bunch of reviews before buying them, and to keep the exact and unique product name somewhere for research, but from the point they were delivered to me whatever they're named has been completely irrelevant. Same for my computer or phone, I could check the marketing name, and there is skew number somewhere on the product, but in my everyday life it's completely useless.

I'd argue having a impossible to remember but perfectly unique and SEO friendly names wins over using common names like Apple does, for my purposes at least.

Maybe because I want to know if Xbox ASS is better than Xbox PEE without having a manual on my hands? Or what Microsoft Surface pro ai copilot means?

When you go looking for a car will you buy the Peugeot 3008 because it has a higher number than the 208 ? Or will you do research, go to the company site and look at the product description, compare the specs and make your opinion about what best fits your needs ?

Right now there's about 5 lines of Surface devices with each their very specific purpose and tradeoffs. I'd be shocked at someone buying one solely based on the how the name sounds or what they assume it means without looking at the actual product pages.

> When you go looking for a car will you buy the Peugeot 3008 because it has a higher number than the 208 ? Or will you do research, go to the company site and look at the product description, compare the specs and make your opinion about what best fits your needs ?

You're comparing model to generation, not sure what's that supposed to mean.

Yes, I will buy Peugeot 208 over 207 because it is obviously newer. And the point isn't that I'm buying solely because of a number, the point is that it is much more intuitive to have simple naming over "jerk my co, pilot, ai".

> You're comparing model to generation, not sure what's that supposed to mean.

If you can accepts different schemes depending on the maker's intent, I really don't get why you're distressed by XBox naming different console lines with different monikers. I guess it all comes down to whether you like the name or not, and there was nothing to argue on from the very start.

> Yes, I will buy Peugeot 208 over 207 because it is obviously newer

That's a disturbing logic to me, but you do you.

> That's a disturbing logic to me, but you do you.

Buying 2025 model over 2014 is truly disturbing.