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bediger4000 ◴[] No.46183441[source]
Tit-for-tat, justifiable maybe in terms of a simple understanding of game theory, but not justifiable in terms of looking like you're cooperating with authorities.

Another red flag that Musk considers himself a ruler, and not merely a leader, which is after all, just a citizen.

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NotGMan[dead post] ◴[] No.46183532[source]
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cinntaile ◴[] No.46184114[source]
The law definitely was voted for. Enforcing the law obviously doesn't require additional voting.
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nsoqm ◴[] No.46184678{3}[source]
It was? I'm a citizen of the EU and I don't remember the DSA referendum. Maybe I was out that day.
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1. arielcostas ◴[] No.46185462[source]
We the europeans voted a group of MEPs, who voted to approve such regulation. Or do you also vote every single law your country passes?
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2. nsoqm ◴[] No.46185515[source]
No, but I don’t pretend the process is democratic.
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3. happymellon ◴[] No.46185675[source]
Thats fair enough if you don't know what democracy is.
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4. CamperBob2 ◴[] No.46186266{3}[source]
Democracy gets you a Donald Trump. Twice. How much democracy can you take?
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5. nsoqm ◴[] No.46187382{3}[source]
No, I do. Me voting for someone who votes for someone who writes a law is not democratic. I’m far too removed from the process. Maybe it’s you who doesn’t know what democracy is; consider that.
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6. bdangubic ◴[] No.46187418{4}[source]
that much worse than “hope&change” or senile grandpa or gw or fucking bill…???! it is like america woke up one morning and was like “wow, trump is bad…” :)
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7. tomalbrc ◴[] No.46188577{5}[source]
With senile grandpa you are referring to trump falling asleep in meetings or not remembering which deals he signed?
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8. coriny ◴[] No.46189033{4}[source]
The EU, like almost every democracy ever, is a "representative democracy":

> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf, rather than voting on every issue directly, making governance of large populations more efficient while holding elected leaders accountable through regular elections. It's also called an indirect democracy and is the most common form of democracy, seen in the UK (MPs) or India (Members of Parliament).

Direct democracy has historically been completely impracticable. And even with modern comms, I still don't see a way of doing it in practice, personally. The direct democracy of ancient Greece was notoriously corrupt.

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9. coriny ◴[] No.46189228{6}[source]
Could be Reagan as well.
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10. happymellon ◴[] No.46189256{4}[source]
Not sure what your point is.
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11. hulitu ◴[] No.46189414[source]
> We the europeans voted a group of MEPs, who voted to approve such regulation

I voted another MEP.

12. hulitu ◴[] No.46189433{5}[source]
> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf,

Except the officials vote on behalf of the lobbysts, not on behalf of the citizens.

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13. cinntaile ◴[] No.46189591{6}[source]
It sure wasn't the big tech lobbyists cause they're not too happy about this.
14. bdangubic ◴[] No.46191961{7}[source]
all of them
15. CamperBob2 ◴[] No.46194704{5}[source]
The point is that there is nothing magical or inherently virtuous about democracy. It's always been the best of a bad lot of alternatives, but that was before social media made it possible for bad-faith actors to exploit it so effectively.

Giving stupid people the same political power as everyone else has always been a bad idea, and now it amounts to a suicide pact.

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16. happymellon ◴[] No.46198245{6}[source]
I didn't say there was.

The ggpp just didn't know what democracy was.