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X blocks EU Commission's advertising account after €120M fine

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34 points giuliomagnifico | 22 comments | 07 Dec 25 17:29 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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bediger4000 ◴[07 Dec 25 17:37 UTC] No.46183441[source]▶
Tit-for-tat, justifiable maybe in terms of a simple understanding of game theory, but not justifiable in terms of looking like you're cooperating with authorities.

Another red flag that Musk considers himself a ruler, and not merely a leader, which is after all, just a citizen.

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NotGMan[dead post] ◴[07 Dec 25 17:50 UTC] No.46183532[source]▶
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1. cinntaile ◴[07 Dec 25 19:01 UTC] No.46184114[source]▶
The law definitely was voted for. Enforcing the law obviously doesn't require additional voting.
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2. londons_explore ◴[07 Dec 25 19:16 UTC] No.46184221[source]▶
The voting chain between a typical EU citizens vote at the ballot box and the wording of this legislation is super long.

And anyway, I don't believe X is accused of breaking any specific written EU law - at least nobody seems to be sharing which specific law.

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3. hadrien01 ◴[07 Dec 25 19:34 UTC] No.46184386[source]▶
They're in breach of the DSA. Here's the Commission's press release: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_...
4. nsoqm ◴[07 Dec 25 20:09 UTC] No.46184678[source]▶
It was? I'm a citizen of the EU and I don't remember the DSA referendum. Maybe I was out that day.
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5. arielcostas ◴[07 Dec 25 21:42 UTC] No.46185462[source]▶
We the europeans voted a group of MEPs, who voted to approve such regulation. Or do you also vote every single law your country passes?
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6. nsoqm ◴[07 Dec 25 21:48 UTC] No.46185515{3}[source]▶
No, but I don’t pretend the process is democratic.
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7. happymellon ◴[07 Dec 25 22:04 UTC] No.46185675{4}[source]▶
Thats fair enough if you don't know what democracy is.
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8. CamperBob2 ◴[07 Dec 25 23:03 UTC] No.46186266{5}[source]▶
Democracy gets you a Donald Trump. Twice. How much democracy can you take?
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9. lm28469 ◴[07 Dec 25 23:20 UTC] No.46186422[source]▶
Yeah I mean that's kind of the point of representative democracy, you want us to go and vote for every single law? That would be a full time activity
10. nsoqm ◴[08 Dec 25 01:45 UTC] No.46187382{5}[source]▶
No, I do. Me voting for someone who votes for someone who writes a law is not democratic. I’m far too removed from the process. Maybe it’s you who doesn’t know what democracy is; consider that.
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11. bdangubic ◴[08 Dec 25 01:52 UTC] No.46187418{6}[source]▶
that much worse than “hope&change” or senile grandpa or gw or fucking bill…???! it is like america woke up one morning and was like “wow, trump is bad…” :)
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12. tomalbrc ◴[08 Dec 25 05:04 UTC] No.46188577{7}[source]▶
With senile grandpa you are referring to trump falling asleep in meetings or not remembering which deals he signed?
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13. coriny ◴[08 Dec 25 06:23 UTC] No.46189033{6}[source]▶
The EU, like almost every democracy ever, is a "representative democracy":

> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf, rather than voting on every issue directly, making governance of large populations more efficient while holding elected leaders accountable through regular elections. It's also called an indirect democracy and is the most common form of democracy, seen in the UK (MPs) or India (Members of Parliament).

Direct democracy has historically been completely impracticable. And even with modern comms, I still don't see a way of doing it in practice, personally. The direct democracy of ancient Greece was notoriously corrupt.

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14. coriny ◴[08 Dec 25 06:55 UTC] No.46189228{8}[source]▶
Could be Reagan as well.
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15. happymellon ◴[08 Dec 25 06:59 UTC] No.46189256{6}[source]▶
Not sure what your point is.
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16. hulitu ◴[08 Dec 25 07:26 UTC] No.46189414{3}[source]▶
> We the europeans voted a group of MEPs, who voted to approve such regulation

I voted another MEP.

17. hulitu ◴[08 Dec 25 07:28 UTC] No.46189433{7}[source]▶
> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf,

Except the officials vote on behalf of the lobbysts, not on behalf of the citizens.

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18. cinntaile ◴[08 Dec 25 07:58 UTC] No.46189591{8}[source]▶
It sure wasn't the big tech lobbyists cause they're not too happy about this.
19. cinntaile ◴[08 Dec 25 11:37 UTC] No.46191131[source]▶
I'm curious about your thought process here. What makes you so distrustful of the EU that you assumed this was a fine without a legal justification?
20. bdangubic ◴[08 Dec 25 13:26 UTC] No.46191961{9}[source]▶
all of them
21. CamperBob2 ◴[08 Dec 25 17:00 UTC] No.46194704{7}[source]▶
The point is that there is nothing magical or inherently virtuous about democracy. It's always been the best of a bad lot of alternatives, but that was before social media made it possible for bad-faith actors to exploit it so effectively.

Giving stupid people the same political power as everyone else has always been a bad idea, and now it amounts to a suicide pact.

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22. happymellon ◴[08 Dec 25 22:01 UTC] No.46198245{8}[source]▶
I didn't say there was.

The ggpp just didn't know what democracy was.