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Using LLMs at Oxide

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peheje ◴[] No.46180755[source]
I know I'm walking into a den of wolves here and will probably get buried in downvotes, but I have to disagree with the idea that using LLMs for writing breaks some social contract.

If you hand me a financial report, I expect you used Excel or a calculator. I don't feel cheated that you didn't do long division by hand to prove your understanding. Writing is no different. The value isn't in how much you sweated while producing it. The value is in how clear the final output is.

Human communication is lossy. I think X, I write X' (because I'm imperfect), you understand Y. This is where so many misunderstandings and workplace conflicts come from. People overestimate how clear they are. LLMs help reduce that gap. They remove ambiguity, clean up grammar, and strip away the accidental noise that gets in the way of the actual point.

Ultimately, outside of fiction and poetry, writing is data transmission. I don't need to know that the writer struggled with the text. I need to understand the point clearly, quickly, and without friction. Using a tool that delivers that is the highest form of respect for the reader.

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1. mft_ ◴[] No.46180927[source]
I’m with you, and further, I’d apply this (with some caveats) to images created by generative AI too.

I’ve come across a lot of people recently online expressing anger and revulsion at any images or artwork that have been created by genAI.

For relatively mundane purposes, like marketing materials, or diagrams, or the sort of images that would anyway be sourced from a low-cost image library, I don’t think there’s an inherent value to the “art”, and don’t see any problem with such things being created via genAI.

Possible consequences:

1) Yes, this will likely lead to loss/shifts in employment, but wasn’t progress ever like this? People have historically reacted strongly against many such shifts when advancing technology threatens some sector, but somehow we always figure it out and move on.

2) For genuine art, I suspect this will in time lead to a greater value being placed in demonstrably human-created originals. Related, there’s probably of money to be made by whoever can create a trusted system somehow capturing proof of human work, in a way that can’t be cheated or faked.