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    1. emmelaich ◴[] No.46178849[source]
    I had a look at the crater using Google maps. Does this user contributed photo look AI to anyone? Or at least 'shopped. https://maps.app.goo.gl/or6gj5XnTCTwv4Ys7
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    2. pimlottc ◴[] No.46178898[source]
    It’s not real, lava has not flowed into the ocean for many years.
    3. AstroNutt ◴[] No.46178927[source]
    Nothing looks right. The waterfall of lava to the caldera. How do you get magma ring above a non erupting caldera? It's 100% fake.
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    4. csomar ◴[] No.46178999[source]
    Are these giant buildings over there? Would be easy to check their existence (though the photo could be real but the lava is not)
    5. jcranmer ◴[] No.46179104[source]
    That photo is pretty clearly fake.

    * The steam from lava should be arising from where the lava hits the lava, boiling it--there's not going to be any steam from the interior of a lava tube, because all of the water will have boiled out long ago.

    * It looks like somebody dumped a photo of a black rock field on top of a different image. There's a sploch of a normal tan-sand beach at the base of part of this cliffs; in recent lava activity, the lava will extend fully into the ocean and collapse. Given that the edge of the lava is a) pretty towering and yet b) some distance from the sea.

    * The lava activity in the extreme foreground is pretty sketchy. It's not entirely implausible to have lava flowing into a pit like that in some fashion, but there's also no clear source from the lava, and real Hawaiian lava flows tend to look somewhat different than that.

    * Lava flows downhill from a rift zone. Where's the rift zone here? It's basically a wall of black rock. Photogammetry is not my strong suit, but the presumably dried lava is towering above the treetops in the distance, and yet there's no clear sense of where the lava is flowing from.

    * In the background, you see something more akin to a stratovolcano (actually, might well be an eroded granite dike or some other weird formation like that as opposed to a volcano in the first place). Hawaiian volcanoes are shield volcanoes, they don't look like that. Also, Kilauea and Mauna Loa are too active to really have the deeply-eroded look like that. You have to go to Kohala on the Big Island to get that kind of look.

    * Kilauea is nowhere near the ocean. (Also, shield volcano, you can't see the top from the base.)

    * There's another island clearly visible in the background. None of the Hawaiian islands are close enough to each other to generally be visible from one another! And certainly not from any view of Kilauea, which is the last volcano in the chain that's above sea level. (Loihi still has another 3,000 feet to go before it pokes above the surface.)

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    6. IAmGraydon ◴[] No.46179161[source]
    That user has submitted 58,000 photos. It's AI. Everyone should be reporting the photo and the account.
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    8. pfdietz ◴[] No.46179230[source]
    Not saying this isn't fake, but erupting lava produces plenty of volatiles, including steam. These gases coming out of solution is what drives it to the surface.
    9. dawnerd ◴[] No.46179261[source]
    There's a lot of really spammy data on Google maps that should be pretty easy for them to detect too. Go look at some remote locations and you'll find lots of images that advertise businesses, products and all sorts. Wondering if they're using it for image hosting.
    10. polishdude20 ◴[] No.46180209[source]
    You can actually sometimes see the big Island from the Haleakala summit!
    11. nsoqm ◴[] No.46180862[source]
    You just have to look at the picture of the person who uploaded it: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/ALV-UjW5veVXQHmH8s4Db3W...
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    13. pawelduda ◴[] No.46183224[source]
    This screams AI, 100%
    14. mertd ◴[] No.46183511[source]
    What's the play here? Afaik there are no monetary perks to being a top maps contributor.
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    15. Retr0id ◴[] No.46183551{3}[source]
    Perhaps they're seeding the account with "harmless" contributions before using it to make fraudulent business reviews etc.
    16. antonvs ◴[] No.46184543[source]
    I agree that image is as fake as can be. I reported it. Nitpick though:

    > None of the Hawaiian islands are close enough to each other to generally be visible from one another!

    Of the Hawaiian islands usually identified as "major", Molokai, Lanai, and Kaho‘olawe are all visible from Maui, and vice versa.

    Many people would probably limit the list of major islands to four. Interestingly there doesn't seem to be any official term for that grouping, other than perhaps the "main islands".

    17. lippihom ◴[] No.46196596[source]
    Both the photo and the uploading account are now gone.