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1. whyage ◴[] No.46177937[source]
Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park is absolutely stunning (and safe, away from the closed area). It's like being on a different planet. If you haven't been to the Big Island and the park, you should add it to your bucket list.
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2. magicalhippo ◴[] No.46178265[source]
Sadly there was an ongoing eruption when me and my SO visited the Big Island, so the entire park was closed. Was a bit bummed out, on the other hand people lost their homes so keeping it in perspective.

That said, I second visiting the Big Island and visit various sites. Driving less than an hour and going from barren volcanic landscapes to lush rainforests was something else, and watching the sunset from Mauna Kea was magical. And lots of great beaches, and most that weren't next to a resort had very few people.

While the island is big relative to the other Hawaiian islands, its small enough that you can drive around it in a day.

I'd recommend staying on the Kona side, which is the dry and somewhat barren side. The Hilo side has rainforests for a reason.

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3. shevy-java ◴[] No.46178286[source]
A university professor here visits many areas. He complained by far the most of the dust in the air that stuck around for quite a while there.
4. skybrian ◴[] No.46178661[source]
The Big Island has good B&B's in many parts of the island so I recommend staying in multiple places, to see the local sights without a long drive afterwards.
5. ridgeguy ◴[] No.46178727[source]
Decades ago, my wife and I visited the Big Island during a fairly sedate eruption. We drove down Chain of Craters Road, got to see a tiny lava flow (talking like a couple feet of glowing honey), but were wanting more. In the distance, we could see a huge steam column where a lava stream was reaching the sea. We asked one of the ever-attendant Park Rangers if we could walk over there. He said no.

But then he said - we close at 5pm, and there are no gates. OK, we can take a hint.

We drove to Hilo and bought cheap tennis and flashlights, then scurried back down Chain of Craters after 6. As the sky darkened, we walked towards the steam column. The rocks beneath our feet showed incandescent glows deep in the cracks, and we started to smell burned rubber from our cheap tennis. Eventually, we came to the lava outfall.

We watched nearly an hour as a river of molten rock cascaded into the ocean. We used our water bottles on our shoe soles, turning back when we ran dry.

I now understand that we were stupid - apparently the park loses a few tourists to shelf collapse each year - but we lived, and the memory is a treasure. Thank you, Mr. Ranger.

And yes, it's like being on a different planet - like being on our own, maybe 4 billion years ago.

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6. 14 ◴[] No.46178817[source]
Not stupid. Just experiencing life and sometimes amazing experiences have a chance of danger. You get to choose what risk levels you are okay with. Props to that ranger who agreed with that belief.
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7. ridgeguy ◴[] No.46178831{3}[source]
At that time, we had no kids & no pets, nobody directly dependent on us. That figured in our conversation on the drive to Hilo. Nowdays, we might come to a different conclusion, but I'm glad for the path we chose then.
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8. bombcar ◴[] No.46178943{4}[source]
Especially since that path didn’t collapse ;)
9. DavidPeiffer ◴[] No.46178953[source]
What struck me about the big island is that it has 8 of the 13 climate zones, and you can go around the perimeter of the island in about 5 hours.

I loved going up Mauna Kea visitor center and stargazing. At ~11,000 feet, it's one of the best places in the world for naked eye stargazing. You're literally above the clouds, the island has strict rules about exterior lights at night to minimize light pollution, and you're above the thickest air. I wasn't expecting to see the Milky Way so easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way#/media/File:Milky_Wa...

10. kbenson ◴[] No.46179144{3}[source]
Choosing your risk level and working within it isn't stupid. Not knowing the risk when it's easy to gather some more info and then acting in ignorance is, which is what GP was describing, and likely why they called their own actions stupid.
11. postalcoder ◴[] No.46179195[source]
Haleakalā is like this as well. Don't just drive up the crater - hike through the thing. It's a ~12 mile hike. It's a remarkable experience because the landscape changes so frequently and dramatically from desert to tropical forest.

The only comp to this is like the transition in Max Max from the desert to the oasis.

Tourists that drive to the crater, take pictures, and drive down have no idea what they're missing.

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12. anonymousiam ◴[] No.46179218[source]
Went there a little over a year ago. The steam vents were active, but no eruptions. The exhibits are wonderful and the birdsong in the evening is amazing.
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13. spike021 ◴[] No.46179330[source]
As postal mentioned below, Haleakalā is fantastic for that.

Also, I recently visited Mt. Aso in southern Kyushu of Japan and it really felt like I was on Mars.

14. quercus ◴[] No.46179432[source]
birdsong? are you talking about coqui frogs?
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15. serf ◴[] No.46179602{4}[source]
it's all whimsy and adventure -- but the reality is that you're not just risking your own lives but also the lives of potential rescuers.

just food for thought. I'm not about to say one should lead a safe and sterile life, but there is more to it than direct dependents.

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16. abathur ◴[] No.46179658[source]
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laze_(geology) :)
17. parineum ◴[] No.46179813{5}[source]
Rescuers choose their jobs too.
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18. ljlolel ◴[] No.46179825{5}[source]
Though rescuers did consciously choose that role and that they’d be saving ignorant people very often
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20. ZeWaka ◴[] No.46179948[source]
Highly recommend camping in the crater on a clear night around new moon. Some of the best stars you'll see. Seeing the sun rise in the crater gap (where you can sometimes see the big island) is stunning.

Park in the lower lot, hitchhike to the top (or get someone else to drive you), and then you can hike back up to your car the next day on the switchbacks.

Do not attempt to hike up the sliding sands trail you took down, it's *very rough*.

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22. ChuckMcM ◴[] No.46180089[source]
Definitely a place to visit if you can. I traveled there in 1983 just as it was starting to erupt and visited a lot of places that are now under lava rock! In a later visit we were walking out to see one of the "peep holes" where you can see the lava down below and the rocks started getting slippery, except they weren't slippery it was our shoe soles melting, oops.
23. kakacik ◴[] No.46180266[source]
How would you compare it to Iceland regarding volcanoes and all? Thats what we Europeans have in our backyard and its a properly stunning and otherwordly experience.
24. mrwrong ◴[] No.46181400{6}[source]
doctors choose their jobs too and they generally encourage people to stay out of the ER
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25. Forgeties79 ◴[] No.46181774{6}[source]
Doesn’t mean you need to add more opportunities for people to get hurt or killed when you know better.
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26. parineum ◴[] No.46182691{7}[source]
That's completely irrelevant. Rescuers can encourage people to be safe, that's expected. they chose that job , despite it's dangers, because they care about those people being safe.

They know the danger and chose the job. That's the relevant bit.

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27. jama211 ◴[] No.46183836{8}[source]
I think you missed their point - just because you choose a job doesn’t mean people shouldn’t try to avoid needing to be rescued in the first place
28. Vinnl ◴[] No.46184056{6}[source]
I wonder if, if you'd talk to a rescuer, they'd agree...
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29. antonvs ◴[] No.46184153[source]
> The rocks beneath our feet showed incandescent glows deep in the cracks, and we started to smell burned rubber from our cheap tennis.

When I was there, this happened in the area that the rangers guided us to. There was an active flow of pāhoehoe at the time, which we could get as close to as we wanted - the heat was a strong disincentive to doing anything dumb. We were warned at the start that shoes with rubber soles would be ruined, but that warning was too late for me and I had no alternative. It was certainly worth the price of a pair of sneakers though.

30. throwforfeds ◴[] No.46185308[source]
> Tourists that drive to the crater, take pictures, and drive down have no idea what they're missing.

And for some reason blather on and on loudly up there when the most mind blowing sunsets are happening. Can we not be silent for 15 minutes and look at the universe doing it's thing?

31. anonymousiam ◴[] No.46186003{3}[source]
There are a half dozen or so different species of birds in the lava tube jungle areas. If you ever get a chance to go there just after dusk, you will be amazed. (Yes, the frogs make noises too.)
32. ljlolel ◴[] No.46191302{7}[source]
source: i worked on an ambulance
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34. Vinnl ◴[] No.46192568{8}[source]
Heh well, that's a good source. Any idea if all your colleagues thought the same?