Steam Machine

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?

From your mouth to Tim Cook's ear, friend.

And Sundar's too with the latest BS about Android sideloading.

Macs do allow both of those things.

Valve is even borrowing some of the work done for the Mac version of Linux to add support for Proton on ARM hardware.

> Gaming on Linux on M1 is here! We’re thrilled to release our Asahi game playing toolkit, which integrates our Vulkan 1.3 drivers with x86 emulation and Windows compatibility.

https://rosenzweig.io/blog/aaa-gaming-on-m1.html

> Gaming on Linux on M1 is here! We’re thrilled to release our Asahi game playing toolkit

That certainly isn't thanks to Apple

Tbf at least Android is open source and AOSP itself doesnt have this limitation

Apple allow this kind of thing only on Mac and while also ensuring it does not happen by providing 0 documentation and by not contributing to any outside project. FEX was not made as part of the Asahi Linux project btw. Please inform yourself before making statements

Apple gets the credit for designing a bootloader that allows you to run a third party unsigned OS without degrading device security when you do boot into MacOS.

Applying the security settings per partition instead of per device is much more flexible, and you don't have to worry about Microsoft controlling which OS signing keys are valid.

It's uncharacteristic of them and better than nothing. But simply not blocking the installation of a 3rd party OS should be the bare minimum required by law. Ideally Apple would publish documentation on the hardware so it didn't have to be reverse engineered.

Although changes made since have left M3 and newer unsupported by the solution for the first two generations of their design.

That said, when are we going to get a public release for SteamOS? …There’s a joke somewhere about them reaching SteamOS 3

Tbf I haven’t heard any news that Alphabet is requiring all sellers that paid off phones to be able to change to AOSP.

Sort of. Google has slowly migrated all essential services into closed source libraries they control.

Bro. I played what I consider a basic game, Inscryption, on my MacBook Pro M4 Pro with 24Gb and that thing sounded like an aircraft taking off. ...meanwhile the weak sauce Steamdeck plays it flawlessly. Fan hardly even spins up. There is a lot of work to do IMO on the Mac front. I doubt Apple cares.

> designing a bootloader that allows you to run a third party unsigned OS

Oh thank you master for allowing me to boot a different OS!

Being allowed to run whatever OS you want on your device is a right, not something you should need permission for.

Apple doesn't deserve any credit for that. You should be able to use your hardware in any way you want without asking Apple for permission.

Is Google going to require that device makers provide unlocked bootloaders?

This isn't quite true. My GrapheneOS phone isn't lacking any "essential service." The only issue is that some apps distributed through the Play Store (or an alternative frontend like Aurora) that depend on proprietary Google libraries won't work. But this is a problem that rests with the developers of the apps, not AOSP per se.

Half-Life 3 confirmed

You are allowed and maybe have one option, what's the problem?

It's always been public:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-42...

https://gitlab.com/evlaV/holo-PKGBUILD

I have a SFF pc with an AMD GPU and AMD CPU both with better specs that the new Steam Machine just waiting for them to release a standalone installer for SteamOS :(

That is not 100% correct. Apple is slowing closing in the walls on a general purpose computer and preventing the bypassing of Gatekeeper with the execution of unsigned applications to _protect the children._ [0] [1] [2] [3]

[0] https://support.apple.com/guide/security/rosetta-2-on-a-mac-...

[1] https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256079635?sortBy=rank

[2] https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/20755

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45907259

There is no "Mac version of Linux"

Does this mean the 1981 IBM PC gets the same praise? I mean you could install whatever you wanted on that thing.

You can use the Steam Deck recovery image to flash an SSD with SteamOS. It's what those of us on other handhelds do.

> These public repositories (@gitlab.com/evlaV) are an unmodified 1:1 public copy/mirror of Valve's latest (currently private) SteamOS 3.x (holo) GitLab repositories

This sure reads like it's private

You can download it and install images freely. The source code is private but available.

Have you tried CachyOS? May get the results you are looking for with Desktop or even Handheld addition.

> I dunno if I'd characterize this as "public"

Then define public and state what's wrong with this repo which conflicts from your definition of public.

For me this looks like a fine public resource and after a short glimpse it looks like that you should be able to even build this effing source code from this repo.

Edit ps. If you edit your own content then please leave a note about what you have changed please

It may be too late, but its probably a good idea to to shift the language and start saying installing software on your own device. Google likes the term sideloading because it implies its a weird hack to not get all your software from their store.

Yeah, imagine if you could install a different operating system on your Mac! What a world that would be!

Worth noting that this is a dig against the other consoles which do not allow this, not Apple who (in part) does.

Somewhere along the line during the past almost 30 years, we forgot what public and private mean.