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1173 points davikr | 10 comments | 12 Nov 25 17:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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TheCoreh ◴[12 Nov 25 18:40 UTC] No.45904064[source]▶
Very weird USB-C port placement choices...

- 2 USB3-A on the front

- 2 USB2-A on the back

- 1 USB-C on the back

If you want to plug an external USB hard drive or SSD at full speed, you'll need to plug it at the front? Or use up the only USB-C port...

I suspect most joysticks sold today come with a USB-C to USB-C cable, so if you want to charge your controller you either need to plug on the back, use an adapter, or get a USB-A to USB-C cable?

Also the single USB-C port isn't Thunderbolt/USB4, and they're only including gigabit ethernet, which is disappointing but perhaps understandable if they're trying to keep it at a low price.

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1. viraptor ◴[12 Nov 25 19:18 UTC] No.45904801[source]▶
What do you expect to do with the steam machine that will take more than a gigabit? I mean, it's cool when things are faster, but if you can saturate the link, downloads are still bottlenecked by the drives. And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally.
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2. embedding-shape ◴[12 Nov 25 19:49 UTC] No.45905386[source]▶
> And even 4k streaming is under 100Mbit normally

Are you talking "4k streaming" as the current streaming providers do it, with trash bitrate, or "4k streaming" as you would do it if you had ripped your own blu-ray disks and you want to stream it from a NAS somewhere else in your house to your living room?

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3. viraptor ◴[12 Nov 25 20:03 UTC] No.45905626[source]▶
The extreme high quality blurays are going up to 144Mbps or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray Still nowhere near a gigabit.
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4. shdjhdfh ◴[12 Nov 25 20:08 UTC] No.45905712[source]▶
The highest bitrate UHD Blu-ray supports is 144mbit/s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_HD_Blu-ray. A one gigabit NIC is not even close to the biggest compromise on this system.
5. pvillano ◴[12 Nov 25 20:20 UTC] No.45905928[source]▶
"the average bitrate for a 4K Blu-ray DVD can range between 48Mbps to 75Mbps. Some discs can also carry around 100Mbps or even 128Mbps, but these are more rare."

https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/forget-streaming-services-here...

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7. daveoc64 ◴[12 Nov 25 22:20 UTC] No.45907655[source]▶
I can download at approximately 2.5 Gbps from Steam on my PC.

I think not having a 2.5 gigabit port at least is a poor choice.

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8. TheCoreh ◴[12 Nov 25 23:17 UTC] No.45908276[source]▶
Games are super large nowadays. IIRC Steam uses P2P for the update downloads, so you should be able to saturate whatever link you have, and the SSD should be substantially faster than 1Gbps. So anyone that has a > 1Gbps internet connection should benefit from something higher than Gigabit.
9. risho ◴[12 Nov 25 23:23 UTC] No.45908343[source]▶
there is almost no one who has multigigabit internet and even for people that do, you spend significantly less than 1 percent of your time on that device downloading. its a complete non issue. this device is a midrange at best pc, so having a gigabit connection is exactly where it should be. if you want to have the best of the best build a pc.
10. viraptor ◴[12 Nov 25 23:32 UTC] No.45908430[source]▶
So you can theoretically download an AAA title like the new kingdom come at 84GB in just under 5 minutes instead of 11 min. That's cool and all, but does it actually matter? I mean, with games of those sizes you're going to spend hundreds of hours in the game most likely. It's an extremely first world problem that takes minutes, maybe once a month.