A Vision of Chocolate's Future in an Amsterdam Brownie

> alt-chocolate is here to stay, in the same way that it’s become commonplace to gorge on a passable meat-free burger

Is it though? Outside of personal bubbles, does anyone see impossible/beyond ‘meat’ being regularly consumed? It’s been relegated to a tiny shelf of my grocery store’s butcher shop, to the point that I can’t recall the last time I even saw it there.

I regularly consume impossible, and use it in pretty much any recipe that calls for ground beef.

In Los Angeles it is still there, particularly at the fancy grocery stores. More visibly you see it on some restaurant menus.

I have lived through enough food trends in my life to suspect if something is popular in California it gets popular everywhere. I don't know if that will be Impossible, I mean just meat substitutes.

Also, I think this is one of those trends where people think the change will happen in 2-5 years but really its more like 10-20. There are a lot of good reasons for meat substitutes.

Here in Germany meat alternatives/substitutes have definitely reached a level of popularity that goes beyond a fad. The leading commercial producer of deli-meats has started producing vegetarian and vegan alternative products that now make up more than 60% of their annual revenue and they even dropped some of their original meat based products in favor of the plant-based alternatives.

It might not be the burger that's going to be replaced but sliced meats and other meat based products might be.

So the rich didn't turn it into a culture war there? Must be nice.

I'm in a major city (>1 million pop) and with exception of the BBQ type places every eatery I've visited has had a passable meat imitation burger (or nuggets, etc) on offer.

Are you based in a more rural area? That might account for why the selection is small where you are.

It isn't commonplace at all. It's fairly uncommon to see it even offered, much less consumed.

Instead of pure "impossible", I take the middle road and enjoy "improbable" meat / meat substitute blend.

It's reliably available in any grocery store I've been into, and I don't particularly compare it to stuff from animals but it's pretty damn good on its own merits.

They sell it at Burger King. I get one fairly regularly (with respect to how often I go at all), because it's only like $1 more.

Starbucks, KFC, Chipotle as well. So like, pretty widespread "beyond (my) personal bubble", to answer GP's question.

I'd try it if i seen it, but i haven't seen it.

I wonder if the USA is unusually obsessive about meat and meat substitutes because, thanks to vast ranches and government subsidies, it has a steak culture. Even less prosperous Americans are used to looking at big red steaks at Walmart. They might believe, ignorant of how industrially cattle are raised, that this is real, honest-to-goodness meat as it should be. So, a meat substitute is a heinous opposite of that. Meanwhile, Europeans are used to eating meat (ground beef, chicken, pork) that is processed or less visibly impressive in some way, and a new twist on processed meat that has no actual meat isn’t so shocking.