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Fighting the New York Times' invasion of user privacy

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195 points meetpateltech | 2 comments | 12 Nov 25 14:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.475s | source
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nlh ◴[12 Nov 25 14:50 UTC] No.45900930[source]▶
Man, maybe I'm getting old and jaded, but it's not often that I read a post that literally makes my skin crawl.

This is so transparently icky. "Oh woe is us! We're being sued and we're looking out for YOU the user, who is definitely not the product. We are just a 'lil 'ol (near) trillion-dollar business trying to protect you!"

Come ON.

Look I don't actually know who's in the right in the OAI vs. NYT dispute, and frankly I personally lean more toward the side the says that you are allowed to train models on the world's information as long as you consume it legally and don't violate copyright.

But this transparent attempt to get user sympathy under insanely disingenuous pretenses is just absurd.

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1. greyman ◴[12 Nov 25 15:28 UTC] No.45901375[source]▶
Why it is absurd? Conversation between me and ChatGPT can be read by a lawyer working for NYT, and that is what is absurd.
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2. HelloMcFly ◴[12 Nov 25 16:46 UTC] No.45902362[source]▶
OpenAI has seemingly done everything they can to put publishers in a position to make this demand, and they've certainly not done anything to make it impossible for them to respond to it. Is there a better, more privacy minded way for NYT to get the data they need? Probably, I'm not smart enough to understand all the things that go into such a decision. But I know I don't view them as the villain for asking, and I also know I don't view OpenAI as some sort of guardian of my or my data's best interests.