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299 points gastonmorixe | 3 comments | 12 Nov 25 07:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.772s | source
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mhovd ◴[12 Nov 25 10:53 UTC] No.45898645[source]▶
I am surprised that NTP project is not funded, fully or partially, by larger organizations or governments, given the criticality of the project.
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nickelpro ◴[12 Nov 25 12:19 UTC] No.45899269[source]▶
The reference implementation, while historically important, has largely been displaced by more secure/performant implementations (ntpsec, chrony), or by in-house implementations (Amazon, Google).

Notably NTPd doesn't support leap-smear, which means those who absolutely must have monotonic time can't use it at all.

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tptacek ◴[12 Nov 25 13:36 UTC] No.45899969[source]▶
Who's running ntpsec?
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exasperaited ◴[12 Nov 25 13:52 UTC] No.45900183[source]▶
At least in part, someone you really don't want to be running a fork of an important project: ESR.
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chocalot ◴[12 Nov 25 14:16 UTC] No.45900470[source]▶
I'm out of the loop. What's the issue with using a project that ESR contributes to?

I am vaguely aware he has some unpopular political beliefs (though exactly what I don't know). Is that it?

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1. akerl_ ◴[12 Nov 25 15:23 UTC] No.45901318[source]▶
Insofar as racism, homophobia, and sexism are unpopular political beliefs: yes.

Oh, also he doesn't really "contribute" to tech projects so much as "exists near/within them and writes long form ramblings".

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2. chocalot ◴[12 Nov 25 19:05 UTC] No.45904552[source]▶
Ah, the person I responded to suggests he runs the project.

If he just "exists near", I see even less of a case why someone should avoid it.

But horses for courses, people can choose to avoid for whatever reason.

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3. tptacek ◴[12 Nov 25 19:27 UTC] No.45904987[source]▶
No, there's a long story behind ntpsec and it's all pretty exhausting and none of it has anything to do with ESR's personal life.