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1. tsoukase ◴[] No.45900869[source]
There might be no 80 year long period in global history more peaceful than the current (measured by war fatalities per global population). And this happened due to a single reason: nuclear warheads. The super-powers USA, China, India whatever better go back to a cold war: stable balance, no casualties, only media fights. Every body, war guys and normal people, is happy. And in case the things escalate we are all to a sudden death than to a painful recovery.
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2. MangoToupe ◴[] No.45901246[source]
> And this happened due to a single reason: nuclear warheads.

I think this happened in spite of nuclear warheads. US naval dominance has had far greater material impact, even vs other world powers.

> And in case the things escalate we are all to a sudden death than to a painful recovery.

I don't think nuclear war ever implied the complete extinction of the human race.

3. welcome_dragon ◴[] No.45901316[source]
Then maybe American politics can go back to fighting a common enemy instead of each other.
4. carefulfungi ◴[] No.45901383[source]
I thought this was interesting speculation and googled quickly.

It seems... debatable? Close? Obviously a challenging dataset to gather accurately.

https://www3.nd.edu/~dhoward1/Rates%20of%20Death%20in%20War....

5. moregrist ◴[] No.45902378[source]
This puts far too much emphasis on weapons and far too little on the diplomatic soft power that made the threat of these weapons effective.

I don’t think we would have had decades of stability without the Marshall plan investing in western Europe. Similarly the US investment in post-WWII Japan and South Korea gave the US strong allies that had common purpose.

It’s not separate; soft diplomacy made the extensive network of US military bases palatable to foreign governments.

I think pointing to nukes as the only factor neglects a lot of other important work. Stability requires the status quo to be another intolerable for governments and their people. The mutually-assured destruction of nuclear deterrence alone doesn’t give you that.

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6. w10-1 ◴[] No.45904492[source]
Another factor is economic inter-dependence. Heck, Europe has been buying energy from Russia to fund the war in Ukraine. China has contained the US not through war or diplomacy but through US economic dependency (yet having enough of their own internal markets to ignore economic pressure).