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299 points gastonmorixe | 4 comments | 12 Nov 25 07:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.403s | source
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jchw ◴[12 Nov 25 10:53 UTC] No.45898647[source]▶
I tried to donate, but apparently I am not human:

> 1 error prohibited this submission from being saved:

> Looks like you are not a human

Good to know.

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autoexec ◴[12 Nov 25 11:28 UTC] No.45898869[source]▶
I'm not sure why they'd try so hard to keep bots from paying them anyway. If someone wants to write a bot that constantly pays me good money I'm fine with that. I might rate limit it if the stream of payments coming in can't cover the cost of keeping the server from being DoS'd, but that's not going to inconvenience a human trying to submit a payment one time.
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op7 ◴[12 Nov 25 11:43 UTC] No.45898965[source]▶
Then when too many of the fradulent payments get charged back then your payment processor drops you
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1. michaelt ◴[12 Nov 25 11:53 UTC] No.45899032[source]▶
Sure, chargebacks cost money.

You know what else costs money? When someone wants to give you money, and you misidentify them as a bot and refuse their money.

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2. Akronymus ◴[12 Nov 25 12:03 UTC] No.45899132[source]▶
With donations being blocked you keep sitting at 0, with chargebacks you can actually go negative, in a potentially unbounded way.
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3. bawolff ◴[12 Nov 25 12:05 UTC] No.45899145[source]▶
Yeah, but one probably costs more money then the other, and it seems plausible its the chargebacks.
4. zinekeller ◴[12 Nov 25 12:28 UTC] No.45899328[source]▶
I really hope that the sole reason that michaelt concluded this is simply due on not having any experience how to manage credit card payments (on merchant's side).

For those who does not handle these things: I am not sure on what processor Network Time Foundation is using, but Stripe's $15 fee is actually on the low side of chargebacks (some processors even use the fixed fee + percentage model). Worse, this is unconditional: if you somehow won this, you won't get the chargeback fee.