←back to thread

1124 points CrankyBear | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.199s | source
Show context
woodruffw ◴[] No.45891521[source]
I’m an open source maintainer, so I empathize with the sentiment that large companies appear to produce labor for unpaid maintainers by disclosing security issues. But appearance is operative: a security issue is something that I (as the maintainer) would need to fix regardless of who reports it, or would otherwise need to accept the reputational hit that comes with not triaging security reports. That’s sometimes perfectly fine (it’s okay for projects to decide that security isn’t a priority!), but you can’t have it both ways.
replies(13): >>45891613 #>>45891749 #>>45891930 #>>45892032 #>>45892263 #>>45892941 #>>45892989 #>>45894805 #>>45896179 #>>45897077 #>>45897316 #>>45898926 #>>45900786 #
Msurrow ◴[] No.45891613[source]
My takeaway from the article was not that the report was a problem, but a change in approach from Google that they’d disclose publicly after X days, regardless of if the project had a chance to fix it.

To me its okay to “demand” from a for profit company (eg google) to fix an issue fast. Because they have ressources. But to “demand” that an oss project fix something with a certain (possibly tight) timeframe.. well I’m sure you better than me, that that’s not who volunteering works

replies(5): >>45891699 #>>45891755 #>>45891844 #>>45893088 #>>45898343 #
Lerc ◴[] No.45891755[source]
That is standard practice. It is considered irresponsible to not publicly disclose any vulnerability.

The X days is a concession to the developers that the public disclosure will be delayed to give them an opportunity to address the issue.

replies(3): >>45891840 #>>45891994 #>>45892271 #
SpicyLemonZest ◴[] No.45891840[source]
The entire conflict here is that norms about what's considered responsible were developed in a different context, where vulnerability reports were generated at a much lower rate and dedicated CVE-searching teams were much less common. FFmpeg says this was "AI generated bug reports on an obscure 1990s hobby codec"; if that's accurate (I have no reason to doubt it, just no time to go check), I tend to agree that it doesn't make sense to apply the standards that were developed for vulnerabilities like "malicious PNG file crashes the computer when loaded".
replies(4): >>45891940 #>>45892158 #>>45897036 #>>45898153 #
1. walletdrainer ◴[] No.45898153[source]
> CVE-searching teams

Silly nitpick, but you search for vulnerabilities not CVEs. CVE is something that may or may not be assigned to track a vulnerability after it has been discovered.

Most security issues probably get patched without a CVE ever being issued.